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Is Hilary Swank becoming the new Queen of American actresses?

I was very thrilled to see Hilary Swank win her second Oscar Sunday night. I read somewhere that she is only the third actress behind Jodie Foster and Luise Ranier to become a multiple winner by the age of 30. (Bette Davis become one by 31)

She seems to choose her roles rather well, but the one thing I noticed with her, is that she does not seem to get as much publicity as say Julia Roberts or even be compared to greatness to say Meryl Streep.

But Hilary's diversity as an actress to me is incredible. Not sure if she is headed toward superstardom, but I am hoping her latest success will help her lead her on that path.

Any thoughts on Hilary? Is she destined to become America's most respected actress?
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Diversity? Her two Oscar winning roles are very similar. They're not feminine and both very tragic roles.

Aside from those two, what has she done? Nothing.

Personally, I think she fluked this one in a weak year for Best Actresses and lucky to be in a very highly buzzed film.

You're right, she's nowhere near the Streeps and Roberts. She's not even up there with Kidmans and Zellwegers.




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^No, you're right She's far better than the Roberts, the Kidman's and the Zellwegers...

She's not as commercial as those ladies as her films tend to be less main stream- just listen to her accent! Or look at "Boy's Don't Cry" in which she is incredible. The content, and the story are just not commercial, hence its an indie film. This 'indie film' argument doesn't work for Million Dollar, however the content of the film does. (Don't want to spoil it for those who haven't seen it).

Personally I think it's great that she's not as 'commercial' as the rest of these ladies because as far as I'm concerned that means she's making amazing films that are pushing at societies boundaries. To me, commercial = dull.

Go Hilary!
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Hardly ... only two roles that were noticed by public brought her an Oscar. It was strange from Academy to award someone twice in such short time ... you would think someone who won two Academy Awards for Best leading role would be regarded as one of the best ... we all know that's not the case!

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My thoughts-

1. Her acceptance speeech this time around irked me for its length and banality. She was just honored in such an amazing way, and she wastes her speech, all 2 hours of it, thanking people (lawyers, agents, etc) rather than saying anything interesting or revealing.

2. After Boys Dont Cry, it irked me that she ran around screaming at the top of her lungs, be it in interviews, ads, pictures, on runways, "I"M A GIRL! LOOK AT ME!! I CAN PLAY A GIRL TOO!! HEY, I'M A GIRL!!!" I know it is the truth, she is a girl, she can play a girl, but it bothered me that she clearly wanted so strongly to distance herself from a role that helped her so tremendously, and that had such deep meaning for so many, not only for being a real person, but for being TRULY tragic.

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I thought part of her acceptance speech was kind of cute. You know, when she said "I'm just a girl from a trailor park" and almost started crying?

Anyways, I really like her, in spite of myself. For some reason I want to not, but I can't help it.
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Personally the "I'm just a girl from a trailer park" comment irked me. It seemed so calculating to me... Oh, well. Maybe I'm just a cynic.
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[QUOTE=Crazy Canuck]I thought part of her acceptance speech was kind of cute. You know, when she said "I'm just a girl from a trailor park" and almost started crying?
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I also found that bit lovely. To me she seemed humble, and it sounded genuine... She's done some cool things with her fame in that she supports the Harvey Milk school for LGT in New York (I think).

However, on the whole I agree with the earlier comments about her interviews and her 1st oscar speech..zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz I just love her accent though. My goodness, that is cute.

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^No, you're right She's far better than the Roberts, the Kidman's and the Zellwegers...

She's not as commercial as those ladies as her films tend to be less main stream- just listen to her accent! Or look at "Boy's Don't Cry" in which she is incredible. The content, and the story are just not commercial, hence its an indie film. This 'indie film' argument doesn't work for Million Dollar, however the content of the film does. (Don't want to spoil it for those who haven't seen it).

Personally I think it's great that she's not as 'commercial' as the rest of these ladies because as far as I'm concerned that means she's making amazing films that are pushing at societies boundaries. To me, commercial = dull.

Go Hilary!
No, she's not commercial. She's PURE Oscarbait.

She doesn't have range.

She tried period piece and it fell flat on her face. Affair of the Necklace?

She tried blockbuster and it fell falt on her face. The Core?




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I'm scarred for life by the branding scene in 'the affair of the necklace'. Both of these films suck not because of Hilary but because the scripts sucked. Still they show that she has had major 'blips' in judgement.

As for range, I'd have to disagree- how about her comedic turn in Karate Kid 4 ?
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The one thing she has that not many of the actresses of today have is that she is not afraid to really change her look for a part.
In Boys Dont Cry... she basically looked like a boy and in Million Dollar Baby she bulked up and had a very athletic body. In her roles.. she doesnt look all glamed up etc.
My opinion is when you see an actress playing a part.. if you forget who that person is, then they truely become that part. When I see Julie Roberts or Halle Berry.. in the back of my mind I still know its them coz their appearance never changes, but Hilary's appearance and whole mind set changes and you forget that she's an actress.

*Just my opinion... like assholes everyone has one.

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I found her really endearing in Million Dollar Baby, so I'm on her side.

As to whether she can act in a range of roles, I guess we'll have to wait and see.
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I started to love her when she was playing in Beverly Hills 90210 And I wish her all the best, becaus ahe's really great actress. She really deserve those 2 Oscars, much more than Julia Roberts, Zeta-Jones and many many others whos in my opinion are just "stars" not actress.
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She seems to choose her roles rather well, but the one thing I noticed with her, is that she does not seem to get as much publicity as say Julia Roberts or even be compared to greatness to say Meryl Streep.

But Hilary's diversity as an actress to me is incredible.


she seems to choose her roles rather well???

red dust, the affair of the necklace, THE CORE, the next karate kid? look at her filmography.

her three best roles to date are basically all the same... boys don't cry, iron jawed angels, and million dollar baby.

she lacks range and diversity as an actress. i'd like to see her in a GOOD role where she has to wear a dress and brush her hair.

she's one of the most overrated actresses right now. she does two good, sappy oscar movies and suddenly she one of the better actresses of our time?

she is no meryl streep.

the oscars are shit at rewarding real talent. hilary's second win is just another example to add to the long list of fuck-ups the academy has made.


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she will be one of the great and big actress of 2010-2020 with Kirsten Dunst and Julia Stiles
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