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EDITED Bill Cosby support thread

Sorry about my stupid Cosby thread yesterday. I have been away from the US media too long and was not aware of his personal problems. Not that i think he did anything really bad.

sorry for the bad reps too.

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If men would just get all their 'bidness' out of the way BEFORE they say "I do" none of this sh^t would happen. Wear condoms and there will be no baby mama drama. Look for ho's and there will be no commitment issues. But stay away from the altar until you're ready. I'm wasting my breath, I know, because yawl never listen.
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Bill Cosby? Drugging girls? I doubt it.
He has the money to access the means. Beyond that, I adopt a 'wait-and-see' attitude. [QUOTE=Bunker]How many fake accusations do we see nowadays?[?QUOTE}Very few.
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In other places, such as France, A woman who feels an advance has been made at her just says NO, end of story. They dont go try to sue the person, the company, the country, the world for it. She can just say no. it is pathetic.
You don't think they have rape in France? And what's wrong with a rape victim suing? It's assault. If I stomp the shit out of you in parking lot, don't you think you should be able to sue me?

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Rape doesn't really happen, it's always the gold digging woman's imagination.

Misogyny is in. Quick, buy the tshirt. Supplies are limited.

This is a general blabbering that has nothing to do with the Cosby case, which I know little about
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He has the money to access the means. Beyond that, I adopt a 'wait-and-see' attitude. You don't think they have rape in France? And what's wrong with a rape victim suing? It's assault. If I stomp the shit out of you in parking lot, don't you think you should be able to sue me?

Who said anything about whether they have rape in France?

If you could stomp the shit out of me in a parking lot would I sue you? If you had a lot of money I might sue you. I wouldnt sue you for more than I thought was reasonably fair though. And if you had children i would prefer to have insurance cover the costs of my medical bills and emotional support costs, just to make me better. i wouldnt want your wife and children to lose the money they need to go to college, live etc, so that i can be wealthy because you hit me. I think people overdue it. In some countries, when there is a terrorist strike, we dont just give the victim tons of money, they just try to heal their wounds. It is silly for a person to become rich because someone hurt them. At a certain point, enough is enough. We musnt reward people for being victims, just compensate them to make them better. I also believe that sometimes we overlook the causes of some troubles. a lot of times people act foolishly and get themselves into trouble.
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Are you still going to support him after what he told the police in Philly?
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What did he tell the police in Philly? i dont see a link? that he had consensual sex? if that is it, yes i support him. I dont condemn sex out of wedlock.
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What did he tell the police in Philly? i dont see a link? that he had consensual sex? if that is it, yes i support him. I dont condemn sex out of wedlock.
I posted it in the topic I started. BTW, if Cosby has sex with someone other than his wife, then it is sex out of wedlock.
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I posted it in the topic I started. BTW, if Cosby has sex with someone other than his wife, then it is sex out of wedlock.
I'll read the link again, im not sure what it is you are referring too as per his startling admission. Sex out of wedlock might me insulting to ones spouse, but it is not a crime and not worth condemning. its his own busyness.

Am i missing something? what did he admit? Does someone have to have a perfect marital record to be a role model for people. He is my earliest role model id venture to say, i loved him in the cartoon, what was it FAT ALBERT, I love him on Sesame Street and on the Cosby Show, and my dearest Grandfather held him in very high esteem. That he likes to share affections with women other than is wife is of little concern to me. He can still be a great role model and play if he wants to.

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I'll read the link again, im not sure what it is you are referring too as per his startling admission. Sex out of wedlock might me insulting to ones spouse, but it is not a crime and not worth condemning. its his own busyness.

Am i missing something? what did he admit? Does someone have to have a perfect marital record to be a role model for people. He is my earliest role model id venture to say, i loved him in the cartoon, what was it FAT ALBERT, I love him on Sesame Street and on the Cosby Show, and my dearest Grandfather held him in very high esteem. That he likes to share affections with women other than is wife is of little concern to me. He can still be a great role model and play if he wants to.

It is insultilng to pepole he is lecturing to, telling them to be better husbands to their wives. Have you ever heard of the term people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones?

What you are missing are basic morals, plus understanding of the Ten Commandments in the Holy Bible, one of which says Thou Shall Not Commit Adultery. In the US, adultery is a crime in most states, though is it never enforced as it is a Class B or C misdemeanor.
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It is insultilng to pepole he is lecturing to, telling them to be better husbands to their wives. Have you ever heard of the term people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones?

What you are missing are basic morals, plus understanding of the Ten Commandments in the Holy Bible, one of which says Thou Shall Not Commit Adultery. In the US, adultery is a crime in most states, though is it never enforced as it is a Class B or C misdemeanor.
Im hardheaded Lizchris, ill be the first to admit that. but still, there are different standards for different people. In My opinion, if you have a lot of money you have more opportunities to meet women you like and the women are more likely to be receptive to your attentions. plus if you happen to get some action with the women and they get pregnant you can probably afford to pay for the childs education and be forgiven by society cause you have it covered. i think Cosbys focus is not to do hard drugs and alcohol and never hit women. Ive never seen anything showing that Cosby is anything but gentle.

As for your assertion about Adultery.. my understanding is that adultery is having sex with someone elses wife. I believe Cosbys mistresses were single women. So even if it were a crime, he is not guilty cause the women were celibate. Plus in my opinion no person should be alone - maybe the ladies needed some affection and nobody was around to do the job? Back in the good old west, men had wives and when they went to the saloon they had ladies upstairs to take care of their extra sexual needs. The women were respected and loved (Not Beaten) and they got paid , had children, and everyone was happy. In france, having sex with a woman other than you wife is not really a big deal.
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Who said anything about whether they have rape in France?
I was responding to this statement.
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In other places, such as France, A woman who feels an advance has been made at her just says NO
And my point was that men often don't stop just because a woman says no.
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If you could stomp the shit out of me in a parking lot would I sue you? If you had a lot of money I might sue you. I wouldnt sue you for more than I thought was reasonably fair though.
Isn't that completely subjective? Most people don't sue for amounts they think are UN-fair.

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And if you had children i would prefer to have insurance cover the costs of my medical bills and emotional support costs, just to make me better. i wouldnt want your wife and children to lose the money they need to go to college, live etc, so that i can be wealthy because you hit me.
Suppose, and this is quite common, you have nightmares about the incident, can't work, have trouble maintaining relationships.

The cost of treatment for certainly should be born by me, but that could mean decades of therapy. Beyond that, the system is SUPPOSED to be punitive. Part of what I'm paying is punishment. That's why there are both compensatory and punitive damages.

Shifting back to the sub-category of assault, rape; an awful lot of rape victims NEVER 'get over it'. If it hasn't happened to you, it's easy to suggest they should, but trust me, it ain't that easy.

And while 'insurance cover the costs of my medical bills and emotional support costs, just to make me better' is a nice idea, in the United States most insurance simply doesn't cover those cost for victims of sexual assault. Not if 'make me better' means, the event no longer affects my life adversely.

I don't agree with abusing the tort system. But limiting damages simply fosters serial offenses by anyone with enough money.

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Back in the good old west, men had wives and when they went to the saloon they had ladies upstairs to take care of their extra sexual needs. The women were respected and loved (Not Beaten) and they got paid
Bunk, "Bonanza" and "Maverick" are not historical documentaries

I also doubt in most situations (even in enlightened places like France) that the wives are quite so happy about the situation, but regardless, I agree that what goes on in the man's personal life is his personal business - until he starts lecturing people about theirs.

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I was responding to this statement.And my point was that men often don't stop just because a woman says no.
Isn't that completely subjective? Most people don't sue for amounts they think are UN-fair.

OK, and?

Suppose, and this is quite common, you have nightmares about the incident, can't work, have trouble maintaining relationships.

The cost of treatment for certainly should be born by me, but that could mean decades of therapy. Beyond that, the system is SUPPOSED to be punitive. Part of what I'm paying is punishment. That's why there are both compensatory and punitive damages.

I agree with all that. I was talking about me. If you physically assault me, ill let you pay for the physical damage and the pyschological counseling. I know that men and women often never fully recover from all kinds of things. I dont care what other people do. you asked me what would if (if you could and if you did) knock me out. the answer is i would take only what is reasonable and perhaps less than that - if you had a wife and children I see no reason to let you steal from your own family by giving the money to me. That is not my nature and i wouldnt accept VICTIM money. I wouldnt benefit by calm vacations in the carribean to ease my already trouble mind.

Shifting back to the sub-category of assault, rape; an awful lot of rape victims NEVER 'get over it'. If it hasn't happened to you, it's easy to suggest they should, but trust me, it ain't that easy.

I can read the papers too, and hear what the media says. Yes, people who are hurt can have deep psychological wounds. And some, who suffer in the army have post traumatic stress, and some dont. probably women are more fragile especially at tender ages.

And while 'insurance cover the costs of my medical bills and emotional support costs, just to make me better' is a nice idea, in the United States most insurance simply doesn't cover those cost for victims of sexual assault. Not if 'make me better' means, the event no longer affects my life adversely.

I don't agree with abusing the tort system. But limiting damages simply fosters serial offenses by anyone with enough money.

By the way, how do you make multiple qoutes in a post?


My BS is in Bold, havent mastered multiple quotes yet: please advise
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Im hardheaded Lizchris, ill be the first to admit that. but still, there are different standards for different people. In My opinion, if you have a lot of money you have more opportunities to meet women you like and the women are more likely to be receptive to your attentions. plus if you happen to get some action with the women and they get pregnant you can probably afford to pay for the childs education and be forgiven by society cause you have it covered. i think Cosbys focus is not to do hard drugs and alcohol and never hit women. Ive never seen anything showing that Cosby is anything but gentle.

As for your assertion about Adultery.. my understanding is that adultery is having sex with someone elses wife. I believe Cosbys mistresses were single women. So even if it were a crime, he is not guilty cause the women were celibate. Plus in my opinion no person should be alone - maybe the ladies needed some affection and nobody was around to do the job? Back in the good old west, men had wives and when they went to the saloon they had ladies upstairs to take care of their extra sexual needs. The women were respected and loved (Not Beaten) and they got paid , had children, and everyone was happy. In france, having sex with a woman other than you wife is not really a big deal.

There are different standards for different poeple. Some have high moral standards, some have gutter moral standards.

Adultery is when a married man or woman has sex with someone other than their spouse, so in this case Cosby is guilty, regardless of how much money he has.
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