Originally Posted by Lord Nelson
You are right Olen, that's why I don't respect Jews in Israel getting so much U.S. aid. It should be tit for tat! Christians don't give to Jews and Jews don't give to Christians!
Oh you are being sarcastic arnt you!!(You dont need reminding of the other thread!)
Well when the US gives to Israel it gives to Ba'haiis
When it gives to Saudi Arabi it gives to lets see..just Muslims
When we give to America we give to Budhists.
How am I right? My remark had nothing to do with what you said.That remark of yours sounds horrible! Like in the apartheid days..Whites shouldnt associate with Blacks nor Blacks with whites...yeah that kind of isolation will work. Should we go back to our Ghettos? Its 2005.
And if your meaning actual Jews not our secular state of Jeiwsh charachter and the US State which is not alligned with any religion officialy,
Well we gave xtians
B) Their "Old testement" decoration whcih I dont know why they have since they never follow any thing in it anyway
C)Their foundation of religion (Which i guess is the above two)
Without Jews xtians simply would not exist. Strange eh?
You wana play tit for tat? Again you are being sarcastic arent you? We gave them all this and they gave us a millenia of religous persecution (Spanish inquesitions and Russian pogroms to crusades where it was convert or die to burnings at the steak to forced conversions of holocaust children "saved" by the cathiloc church uneder pius to repeated denunciation and second class if that treatment and today what do they give us? Missionaries who are trying to kill off any last reminants of Judaism the Shoah, pogroms and crusades and inquesitions didnt murder by taking Jews away from Judaism and to their religon of only 2000 years which is the complete opposite to Judaism which has been alive and kicking (Just) for 5000 years. Tit for tat????????? I'll go warm up the fires im going to "roast some pork" eh? No they have a right to their religion, but not when it murders and uses underhanded tactics raping their religion on others. We have a right to ours, which we keep to ourselves and hope one day for the same in return.
We give them existance and they try to take ours. How noble.
Hmm Why we dont believe in Jesus, cause he is a foreign concept to us nothing to do with our religion. Our messiah is nothing to do with what he did or didnt do..well with what he didnt do. Also xtianity has bad mistranslations which aids it to claim its from judaism..its way off. since when did our word for "Young woman" become "Virgin"?...thats news to me and my family have been speaking Hebrew for 5000 years! www.jewsforjudaism.com
...its able to sum up why we dont believe their beliefs.
"its funny people claim god does miracles when something great happens but dont say anything when a tsunami wipes out over 200,000 people. Um didnt god do that too? You can have it both ways."
What really? Were you in Shul last Yom Shabbat? Yes we do say things about that. To us it makes sense. It was an act of g-d. everything is to us. It may seem bad but we are not g-d to decide. Life on earth is only a portion of the eternal souls life. We arnt told what to believe about it we are presented with theories which we can take or leave and I have adopted one. Im not going to explain as you dont have the same beliefs so there is no point. Which you are entitled to as are we with ours.
"I also love when people say god saved their little girl from their burning house and I'm like, um, didnt that fireman risk his life by going in there and getting that little girl out? Shouldnt you be thanking him?"
To religious people we see it differently. Briefly, what if the fire truck broke down? Or the fireman was killed before he could save her? Or she died of smoke inhalation. The fireman was a tool and the scenartio was a "learning experience". It was his will that she should live. Again thats our perspective.
Thats my perspective and I understand yours. Now I hope you do see my perspective too and I dont care if you agree just aslong as you see. (Judaisms not a missionary Religion so we aint trying to convince you one way or another, its just lack of empathy has bad effects. We see your side so please see ours. Sounds fair?)