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post #1 of 145 (permalink) Old Dec 18th, 2004, 01:23 PM Thread Starter
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Should Turkey be part of the European Union?

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You have to "shout" your opinion? Why don't you explain instead

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All they want is being part of the "common market", they don't give a **** about the political aspect of the UE. Turkey in EU means the end of its global political project.

( same about UK, Scandinavian countries and Poland btw )

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For the time being, no

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I voted yes. I don't understand why people say no so quickly like Minboy for instance. If his point of view would be a reason to ask countries to leave the EU we would have few countries left. Europe should unite as much as possible. Turkey can form a natural gateway to Asia.
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I voted yes. I don't understand why people say no so quickly like Minboy for instance. If his point of view would be a reason to ask countries to leave the EU we would have few countries left.
I'd rather have a very integrated UE with very few coutries than a non-integrated UE with a lot of them. The UE is going crap now, ever since the entrance of the UK actually, which only goal has been to slow things down since the beginning. ( nothing against brits, but if you don't believe in the european project, just get out )

And i didn't say "no" quickly like you may think. At first i was 100% for turkey in the UE, but then i started to think a little more, and came to this conclusion

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True, but the more coutries you let in, the less united it will be

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I'd rather have a very integrated UE with very few coutries than a non-integrated UE with a lot of them. The UE is going crap now, ever since the entrance of the UK actually, which only goal has been to slow things down since the beginning. ( nothing against brits, but if you don't believe in the european project, just get out )


True, but the more coutries you let in, the less unite it will be
I agree that the union is becoming big right now, which makes it more difficult to make decisions. The union should also be more democratic with a stronger role for the European parliament. But Europe needs to form a front to stand up against the US and Asia. Making the EU smaller doesn't help that.
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I always thought Turkey was part of Asia

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I agree that the union is becoming big right now, which makes it more difficult to make decisions. The union should also be more democratic with a stronger role for the European parliament. But Europe needs to form a front to stand up against the US and Asia. Making the EU smaller doesn't help that.
The only way to stANd up against the US and Asia is to become one , and it's not the way the UE is heading. Where is our common foreign policy? Where is our common army?? Nowhere , and i bet we'll never have those. You just can't have those with 26 delegations around the table.

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The only way to stANd up against the US and Asia is to become one , and it's not the way the UE is heading. Where is our common foreign policy? Where is our common army?? Nowhere , and i bet we'll never have those. You just can't have those with 26 delegations around the table.
Well, we agree on the goal then. I have a little more faith we can reach something that resembles a united front. There are good developments like the new position for Javier Solana, which is a step towards one foreign policy. Changes will come slow though. Look how long it took to get even this far. We should continue to work on the project.
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I always thought Turkey was part of Asia
Turkey has both an Asian and a European part.
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hmmm....with statements like a "natural gateway to Asia...and stance against Asia & US-shows the ulterior motives of the EU and Europeans with their anti-US sentiments- yes? The EU 'project' as someone called it frightens me. Maybe it's just me. Its interesting the European sentiment on this board against the US being a superpower, (or is the problem that it is the only superpower) but yet it looks like the EU's ulterior motives are the same or could shape up to be even worse. I shudder at the thought of European domination again. Next few years will be quite interesting- history does repeat itself.


Moby- your sentiments sound reactive/reactionary...
No, it has nothing to do with Anti-american sentiments. It's about creating a level playing field, so there's no domination from any direction, be it US, Europe or Asia.

The sentence natural gateway to Asia also referred to something else. It is often said Europe and Asia are different in culture and religion for instance. Turkey could help bridge that gap as it combines both worlds.
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YES

Turkey is in Europe, and every country that is in Europe CAN be part of European Union. Turkey is a democratic country, even more than some countries in EU. In Turkey women could vote in 1934, and in Belgium, France, Italy, Portugal, Hungary, Switzerland it was not before 1944-45.

When I hear that Turkey is a muslim country and that Europe it is catholic, BOSNIA AND HERZEGOVINA IS IN EUROPE AND 2 MILLION PEOPLE HERE ARE MUSLIMS. Their is 6 millions muslims in France, 5 million in Germany. Come on people. Europe is not only catholic.

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