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Nearly Half of Americans Support Curbing Rights of Muslims

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Poll shows U.S. views on Muslim-Americans
Nearly half of those surveyed say some rights should be restricted




Andrew Locke / MSNBC.com file




A recent survey by Cornell University found that found 44 percent of Americans favor at least some restrictions on the civil liberties of Muslim Americans. Forty-eight percent said liberties should not be restricted in any way.

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Updated: 9:57 p.m. ET Dec. 17, 2004

ITHACA, N.Y. - Nearly half of all Americans believe the U.S. government should restrict the civil liberties of Muslim-Americans, according to a nationwide poll.

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The survey conducted by Cornell University also found that Republicans and people who described themselves as highly religious were more apt to support curtailing Muslims’ civil liberties than Democrats or people who are less religious.

'Disturbing news'
Researchers also found that respondents who paid more attention to television news were more likely to fear terrorist attacks and support limiting the rights of Muslim-Americans.

“It’s sad news. It’s disturbing news. But it’s not unpredictable,” said Mahdi Bray, executive director of the Muslim American Society. “The nation is at war, even if it’s not a traditional war. We just have to remain vigilant and continue to interface.”

The survey found 44 percent favored at least some restrictions on the civil liberties of Muslim Americans. Forty-eight percent said liberties should not be restricted in any way.

The survey showed that 27 percent of respondents supported requiring all Muslim-Americans to register where they lived with the federal government. Twenty-two percent favored racial profiling to identify potential terrorist threats. And 29 percent thought undercover agents should infiltrate Muslim civic and volunteer organizations to keep tabs on their activities and fund-raising.

Cornell student researchers questioned 715 people in the nationwide telephone poll conducted this fall. The margin of error was 3.6 percentage points.

37 percent believe terrorist attack likely
James Shanahan, an associate professor of communications who helped organize the survey, said the results indicate “the need for continued dialogue about issues of civil liberties” in a time of war.

While researchers said they were not surprised by the overall level of support for curtailing civil liberties, they were startled by the correlation with religion and exposure to television news.

“We need to explore why these two very important channels of discourse may nurture fear rather than understanding,” Shanahan said.

According to the survey, 37 percent believe a terrorist attack in the United States is still likely within the next 12 months. In a similar poll conducted by Cornell in November 2002, that number stood at 90 percent.

NOTE: I do NOT support curtailing the rights of Muslims in any way. The rights of Whites certainly were not curtailed while Black churches were being bombed by terrorists, and Blacks were being lynched by terrorists. This is far less of a threat, and so far, has killed far fewer Americans. Anyone who supports this has lost track of the reality that 'Freedom' is't free. It comes with risks, and requires vigilance.
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To restrict someone's right just because of their religion. Haven't they figured out yet, that not all Muslims are keen on destroying our world, and want us dead. Not all of them think that way, in fact dare I say it probably less than 5% actually consider it. This is completely absurd.

How would the bible thumpers of the southern US states like it if someone came and curbed their rights? I mean they're are more of them crazier than the crazy small percentage of people with Muslim beliefs

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I've said it before and I'll say it again. IT's about WHITE CHRISTIANS, if you're not a White AND a Christian, your rights will eventually be taken away. That's fact.

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I've said it before and I'll say it again. IT's about WHITE CHRISTIANS, if you're not a White AND a Christian, your rights will eventually be taken away. That's fact.
The evolution of the KKK, imo.

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Sam, are you telling me that you're comparing white christian americans to the kkk? Because if so, I do have a rebuttal, but I would like to be crystal clear on your sentence first. Please elaborate.
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How would the bible thumpers of the southern US states like it if someone came and curbed their rights? I mean they're are more of them crazier than the crazy small percentage of people with Muslim beliefs
Bacardi, are you using southern born, bible reading people as an example or is that what you think of the people in southern United States? I can attest to being the very thing you describe, although "bible thumper" isn't very accurate and I have been nothing but polite, welcoming and hospitable to everyone, regardless of race, creed, color or religion.

Have you compared the crazy population of the U.S. to the 'small percentage' of Muslims to find the majority? I'd be willing to bet that there are more Muslim extremists than southern U.S. extremists in this world. Approximately 1.3 Billion compared to what, say 70 million in the southern U.S., coast to coast? Interesting....
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People are scary. It really is frightening how much weight sterotypes still carry in this supposedly "enlightened" time, and how powerful xenophobia really is. It can get pretty scary pretty fast- during World War II, my supposedly nice, peaceful, enlightened country tried to deport all the Japanese-Canadians back to Japan. Luckily they didn't achieve their full objective, but they did deport 5, 000 people, some of whose families had been in Canada for generations and who didn't even speak Japanese.

I don't mean to be paranoid, but it seems that if you're anything but white, male, Christian, and straight, there's always someone trying to ignore your rights, and whether you're part of a disadvantaged group or not, you have a duty to fight for the rights of anyone who's getting the shaft. It benefits us all, and I hope this particular group of xenophobes comes to their senses, not that I'm optimistic.

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That article made me want to hurl. The US put all of its Japanese in camps and seized their lawful property, which was never returned. Notably, there were no camps for Italians or Germans.

I think the key is interaction. I would wager that most people that fear Muslims don't know any Muslims personally. If people actually got out and met each other, they would find that people are just people.
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I think the key is interaction. I would wager that most people that fear Muslims don't know any Muslims personally. If people actually got out and met each other, they would find that people are just people.
I think this problem is not just in the US but also in Europe too when people is getting very anti-muslims since 9/11. I hope the American goverment are not restrict rights on American Muslims. That just makes the situation worse.

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I don't mean to be paranoid, but it seems that if you're anything but white, male, Christian, and straight, there's always someone trying to ignore your rights, and whether you're part of a disadvantaged group or not, you have a duty to fight for the rights of anyone who's getting the shaft. It benefits us all, and I hope this particular group of xenophobes comes to their senses, not that I'm optimistic.
Is this world-wide, just Canada, or something else?
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That article made me want to hurl. The US put all of its Japanese in camps and seized their lawful property, which was never returned. Notably, there were no camps for Italians or Germans.

I think the key is interaction. I would wager that most people that fear Muslims don't know any Muslims personally. If people actually got out and met each other, they would find that people are just people.
I couldn't agree more . This article is based upon the mind set created by dubya and his administration among the common American public through media--- and I'm afraid it is not going to disappear easy or anytime soon.

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So which terrorist attacks have Muslim Americans been responsible for?

At a time when America needs the more moderate Muslim countries to stand with them and condemn the extremes of Islam that we are seeing around the world, if the US government adopted this policy it would send a terrible message to those countries: "We don't even trust our own Muslim citizens, so we certainly don't trust you" That's almost 1/3 of the world's countries that the USA would implicitly write off as untrustworthy, including several key allies, half of the African countries and almost all of the couuntries in the Middle East. Not to mention the 1 million or so Americans who would be expected to remain loyal to a country that openly distrusts them and treats them as second class citizens.

There needs to be more interaction and more knowledge of Muslim countries and what being a Muslim means to the vast majority of people all over the world, not just to a small group of terrorists who use Islam to justify their actions.
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Yeah, people are ridiculously gullable and they have bought this administrations hate-speak hook line and sinker.....and it kind of shows that the media isn't as liberal as some try to say because if they were they would spend more time not dealing in stereotypes and more in trying to show everyones story.

I have faith that it will change....nothing stays the same forever.
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It's absolutely un-American as far as I'm concerned to seek out to pick on one religion just because of what is going on in the world.

But one thing that I am disappointed with in the Muslim community, especially in the States, is that I never see anybody protesting or denouncing the violence we see in the name of Islam.

No marches denouncing terroism. No vocal denouncement. Nothing.

Now that to me is more disturbing....
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I've said it before and I'll say it again. IT's about WHITE CHRISTIANS, if you're not a White AND a Christian, your rights will eventually be taken away. That's fact.
Maybe that's true, but one thing I can say with confidence is that it's not only white Christians who favor limiting the rights of Muslims. I personally knows Jews who favor it, Blacks who favor it, and Chinese who favor it. I'd bet you could find Japanese-Americans who favor it, if you looked hard enough.

Bigotry is no respector of race or religion, and neither is fear. I know some quite liberal-minded people who, on Sept 12, 2001, were saying 'deport all the Arabs'.

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