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Why do you/don't you believe in the existence of God?

I don't like people who sit on the fence on this issue.
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i'm not sure if i do...i should but i dont know, u know, its kinda weird...anyway, thats my anwer
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i do because i have felt god in my life
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i do because i have felt god in my life
i'm too young to tell....i haven't felt him, yet...
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I don't like people who sit on the fence on this issue.
Sitting on the fence is the only rational position on this issue. Are you saying you don't like rational people?
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I have to go with Abby on this one. And, despite an occasional problem with organized religon, it is the one thing that I have never doubted
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Anyway, I'm a moral realist, and moral realism implies god. So I tend to.
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The most rational option is to not believe in God, as the concept is absurd.
That is not correct. The apparent absurdity of a concept, in the mind of a person who has little understanding of the arguments involved, has no bearing on the reasonability of a belief in the mind of a person who does.
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Or something.
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Moral realism is not an absurd concept, it is supported by intuition and reason.
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I believe in God in the strictest sense of the word that implies "God=creator". Something must have created this universe. Some would say Big Bang, others would say the collision of two universes, others would say the Christian God in six days, others Allah, Jehovah, etc. Whatever the name you gave this entity or event doesn't matter. This universe was created by something because something can't be created out of nothing. Since this universe is immensely complicated, you can assume the creator is atleast equally complicated.

Some might ask then who created this creator that created the universe. I am not capable to answer this question, nor is this question important to me, because the only thing I am interested on is on whether or not something created this universe.

That is as far as my flimsy certainity extends - a creator, which most probably is/was complicated more than I am now, created this universe and I choose to call this creator God. That doesn't mean though that I believe this God has a personality or is currently all-powerful to alter its creation.
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Interesting, but I commented on "God".
And I have already commented that moral realism implies god.
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I have had mystical experiences which have convinced me that there is a creative force throughout the universe.It takes a pretty simple minded person in my opinion to think that all of this was an accident. There has got to be some force,call it God,Universal Spirit,Nature,whatever,but it is there nonetheless.

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Moral realism suggests a separate order of reality for morals to exist in, since they obviously don't exist in the material world. This instantly makes the idea of 'god' less 'absurd'. And it could be argued that for morals to exist, there would need to be some kind of intelligence to know them. But that intelligence can't be us, because we are all individuals, and for morals to depend on us would imply subjectivity.

I don't think I explained that very well.
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