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Question About 2 Specific American Law Schools

Can anybody who knows anything about law schools in the States throw me a bone here?

I'm looking at program at a Canadian university where you do to years in Canada and two years at either:

Michigan State College of Law: http://www.law.msu.edu/index.php
American University Washington College of Law: http://www.wcl.american.edu/

and end up with 2 degrees, one from each school.

I just want to know if these US schools BLOW or not. By BLOW I just mean... like, third teir, nobody-will-hire-you crap schools

I probably won't even go to the school that offers the program, but it would be useful to know for my own information.

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Yes, I had neglected to mention that to you. I decided that I need to continue to borrow from the government and amass as large a debt as possible. That, and what else am I going to do with my Bachelors degree? Wipe asses for a living?

I'll probably write my LSAT next October, but if I'm ready I'll write it in June. Then I'll apply in the fall to a few places. Unless I blow my grades over the next two semester. In which case, nevermind.
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What did I tell you last time? That I wanted to a princess? Or was I still in my "astronaut" stage then??
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Neither school will "damage" your resume.

You need to get good grades though if you're looking to be competitive in the market upon graduation. You've got to go to a top 25-30 if you're going to just be an average student (the Kiwi path to success).

I'd pick AU over MSU if you don't intend to practice in the Michigan area. American U foriegn students get away with pleading "I thought it was just as good as Georgetown". You can't pull that stuff with MSU.
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American University Washington College of Law: http://www.wcl.american.edu/
This is the better of the two.
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Neither school will "damage" your resume.

You need to get good grades though if you're looking to be competitive in the market upon graduation. You've got to go to a top 25-30 if you're going to just be an average student (the Kiwi path to success).

I'd pick AU over MSU if you don't intend to practice in the Michigan area. American U foriegn students get away with pleading "I thought it was just as good as Georgetown". You can't pull that stuff with MSU.
Thanks. I thought that you'd be of some use

I don't know if/when/where I want to practice law, but I thought it was worth investigating these programs since obviously, there is more opportunity if you have both degrees.

These - and another program that runs with Detroit (ew) - are my only options, since you get to pay CAN tution fees. I couldn't afford to even look at a school in the states otherwise
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American University Washington College of Law: http://www.wcl.american.edu/
This is the better of the two.
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Um MSU has is known for its good graduate programs- but im afraid their law school isn't really one of them - though they have had supreme court justice, in addition to a handful of various judges that came out of the Law school that im aware of.. its shockingly a tier 3 or 4 + the city isn't that great imo..

- American University has a decent Law school - I believe it was ranked in the top 50 law schools in the country and is a tier 1 - so i believe thatd be your best bet

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sounds like a cool deal, the 2 years in each country. good luck with that, Rebecca. (I can't advise you, I'm just an impoverished musician... )
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Thanks Tammy

MisterQ - yeah, it's a nice idea. Actually uh, getting into Canadian law school is the first step. I shot myself in the foot by sucking so hard my first two years so now I'm a big stress ball trying to make up for it.
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Thanks. I thought that you'd be of some use

I don't know if/when/where I want to practice law, but I thought it was worth investigating these programs since obviously, there is more opportunity if you have both degrees.

These - and another program that runs with Detroit (ew) - are my only options, since you get to pay CAN tution fees. I couldn't afford to even look at a school in the states otherwise
Just remember this...

...Law School Sucks...

...the best thing about Law School is finishing it...

...but once you're finished you'll realize its the best education you'll ever have...

...and your friends will want to kill you because you'll never answer a question with the words "yes" or "no" again.
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Just remember this...

...Law School Sucks...

...the best thing about Law School is finishing it...

...but once you're finished you'll realize its the best education you'll ever have...

...and your friends will want to kill you because you'll never answer a question with the words "yes" or "no" again.
Yes, I've heard that it's a horrible painful process. A woman that I met last time I was in Manhatten told me that indeed, finishing was the best part, and that it's the only thing in her life that she would never want to go through again. That's okay. I don't want to lose brain cells wiping bums for a living with my Bachelors degree, so I'm willing to endure some serious suck for a while.
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Just remember this...

...Law School Sucks...

...the best thing about Law School is finishing it...

...but once you're finished you'll realize its the best education you'll ever have...

...and your friends will want to kill you because you'll never answer a question with the words "yes" or "no" again.
Really, I loved law school. It was the best thing I've ever done in my life. The work is not hard, it's just voluminous. At least the first year. The second year, the work gets harder and it's just as voluminous. The third year is all about clinics, some required courses and the bar. The hardest thing you'll ever do is pass the bar. Law school is a breeze compared to the bar.
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Yes, I've heard that it's a horrible painful process. A woman that I met last time I was in Manhatten told me that indeed, finishing was the best part, and that it's the only thing in her life that she would never want to go through again. That's okay. I don't want to lose brain cells wiping bums for a living with my Bachelors degree, so I'm willing to endure some serious suck for a while.
What I don't ever want to do again is take another bar exam. The Texas, California and NY bar are the hardest in the country. I took the Texas and that's a painful experience. That was 14 years ago and I hear it's gotten harder.
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Well, I can't tell you about the schools, but I have lived in both areas. Do you like cows, long roads, beautiful fall trees and lots of snow? Then East Lansing may be the place for you. Not close to any metro area (well, in Michigan, there is only Detroit).

Washington DC is a great, clean metro city with a slow-Southern feel. Lots of activites. Warmer in the summer and winter.

Up to you. Feeling more urban or country?

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