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Bush to Seek Gay-Marriage Ban in New Term

Bush to Seek Gay-Marriage Ban in New Term -Aide

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By Randall Mikkelsen

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Bush (news - web sites) will renew a quest in his second term for a constitutional amendment to ban same-sex marriage as essential to a "hopeful and decent" society, his top political aide said on Sunday.


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Bush's call for a constitutional ban on gay marriages failed last year in Congress, but his position was seen as a key factor motivating Christian conservatives concerned about "moral values" to turn out in large numbers and help supply Bush with a winning margin in last week's election.



"If we want to have a hopeful and decent society, we ought to aim for the ideal, and the ideal is that marriage ought to be, and should be, a union of a man and a woman," Bush political aide Karl Rove told "Fox News Sunday."



Rove said Bush would "absolutely" push the Republican-controlled Congress for a constitutional amendment, which he said was needed to avert the aims of "activist judges" who would permit gay marriages.



Renewing his push for an amendment -- despite its slim chances of success -- would be a way for Bush to reward his conservative base. The amendment would face a steep hurdle winning the needed approval of three-fourths of the states.



Other items on Bush's second-term agenda included nominating -- without a "litmus test" on abortion -- judges who would "strictly interpret" the Constitution, and tax reform. Rove said Bush wanted to review the tax code "in its entirety," which suggested a broad-based reform was possible.



Republicans' ability to deliver on their campaign agenda will help determine whether the party can realize its potential to retain a governing majority for decades, he said.



The gay-marriage issue leaped into the campaign spotlight this year after Massachusetts legalized the practice in response to a state Supreme Court ruling, and San Francisco began performing gay marriages in defiance of a state ban.



Ballot measures in 11 states to ban gay marriages all passed last week. Gay-rights groups have vowed to keep fighting for legal protections of same-sex relationships despite the election setbacks.



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Bush said last month that he disagreed with a Republican Party platform provision that would also ban civil unions of same-sex couples, and he said states should be able to allow such legal arrangements if they wish.



Rove elaborated on this on Sunday.



"He (Bush) believes that there are ways that states can deal with some of the issues that have been raised, for example, visitation rights in hospitals, or the right to inherit, or benefit rights, property rights, but these can all be dealt with at the state level, without overturning the definition of marriage as between a man and a woman."



U.S. Sen. Susan Collins (news, bio, voting record), a Maine Republican, said a constitutional amendment was unnecessary. "The states are perfectly able to handle this important issue on their own," Collins said on CBS's "Face the Nation."



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Asked whether Bush intended to appoint anti-abortion judges to Supreme Court vacancies considered likely to come open in Bush's second term, Rove said the president would not use a litmus test. He said Bush wanted his judicial nominees to be "impartial umpires" who would strictly interpret the law and Constitution.



He played down a conservative firestorm over a suggestion last week by Sen. Arlen Specter (news, bio, voting record), a Pennsylvania Republican, that Bush would have a hard time winning confirmation of any Supreme Court nominees who would overturn the landmark Roe v. Wade (news - web sites) decision legalizing abortion.







Specter is expected to become chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee (news - web sites) with authority over judicial nominations. Rove said Specter has assured Bush that his nominees would receive a prompt hearing and those picked for an appellate court would receive a vote by the full Senate. Specter said on CBS that he had only been trying to point out that Republicans, while they expanded their Senate control in Tuesday's election, still lacked the Senate votes to overcome a united Democratic front.

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I am telling you, I saw him on TV yesterday and he acted as if he could do whatever he damn well pleases this time. He even answered a reporter in a smart ass way with "I don't have to answer that, I can answer only what I want to". Talk about already feeling the grip of what it must be like to be a dictator.

I really think the USA Shot itself in the ass this time. I'm gay, and I'm leaving. Before he makes it manditory that all of us that have alternative lifestyles get sent to either a mental institution because you know those backwards Christian fucks think homosexuality is a mental illness or worse he sends us to concentration camps.

And hey, you folks voted for it! Hope you enjoy your 4 years of fucking hell!

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And for the record, even if I did stay here. That pencil dicked homophobe could never tell me my gf and I weren't married. Because in our eyes and the eyes of our friends/family we are. And we have wills which state everything I own is hers and vice versa.

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All this is going way beyond merely opposing gay marriage. He seems almost frightened of it, terrified that gays might marry!

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I think he needs to concentrate on more important things in America, like a war that he got thousands of people killed in, and the state of the american economy and stop trying to scapegoat all his problems by picking on a minority .

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I'm from a red state, VA, but it was like 45% Kerry, and 50% Bush. The other 5% was split between the 2 other non-major parties.

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I'm gay, and I'm leaving.

gee, if only leaving the US meant you couldn't post here, we'd all be happy

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Why Lee Waters Boy? You want all gays to leave the US now? You are such a homophobe. It's sad they let you stay around here and post, just because you are a Site Supporter.

BTW, how old are you? I want to know if I should watch CNN for your face when the draft gets reinstated? After all, you voted for it, you belong on the front lines.

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Why Lee Waters Boy? You want all gays to leave the US now? You are such a homophobe. It's sad they let you stay around here and post, just because you are a Site Supporter.

BTW, how old are you? I want to know if I should watch CNN for your face when the draft gets reinstated? After all, you voted for it, you belong on the front lines.
no problems with gays, i'd just prefer you leave..regardless of you or your girlfriend's sexuality
i'm 85, probably too old for the draft

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He's from a red state, Dani... he can't help it.
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Ah, so tell me, how you gonna feel when you have no more social security to collect and lose your medicine benefits? Better yet, are you happy to see your grandchildren over on the front lines within the next 2 years. Are they worth sacrificing so Bush can meet his blood lust?

85, lucky you, you'll probably die before Bush finishes his term and royally fucks us over.

And you are a homophobe, anyone calling anyone else a "dyke" or any degrading comment even once, proves you are homophobic.

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He's from a red state, Dani... he can't help it.
He's from the KING of red states, TEXAS. Home of Bush. By God, I wish we could sell Texas back to Mexico. At this point, I'd trade it, and everyone in it, back to them for a burito, a half stuffed taco, and a bottle of the cheapest tequila they have.

He's also a homophobe, so look out. He'd like to see all of us over there dying on the front lines.

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