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I look at US election map and ..

it reminds me of what the English did to India before they left.. Split it into three geographical, two ideologically opposite parts.

Pakistan, India, Bangladesh

West Coast, Middle America, East Coast

Split done by religious principles back then.
Split done by ideological principles here.

4 years ago at least we had a NM in the middle of huge red territory and NH as a Rep. encleve in the middle of Democratic territory.. Now America is ultimately divided into three contiguous pieces..

I am thinking.. Would you like the country to be split into 2 or 3? It is obvious that the interests and mentality of more educated and liberal coastal population is very different from those of population of Mid. America..

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the division is more clearly defined between larger urban, more cosmopolitan areas being mostly Democrat as opposed to the heavily Republican smaller towns... note the examples of St. Louis, Miami-Fort Lauderdale-West palm Beach, Orlando and Atlanta, whose metropolitan areas went for Kerry even though Missouri, Florida and Georgia gave their votes to Bush...
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the division is more clearly defined between larger urban, more cosmopolitan areas being mostly Democrat as opposed to the heavily Republican smaller towns... note the examples of St. Louis, Miami-Fort Lauderdale-West palm Beach, Orlando and Atlanta, whose metropolitan areas went for Kerry even though Missouri, Florida and Georgia gave their votes to Bush...
Same thing for Illinois. It's incredibly GOP, save for Chicago-land. But that was more than enough to give IL to Kerry.
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Yeah the only states that gave more land area to Kerry were the New England ones (except New Hampshire.)

Also, being "more educated" has nothing to do with it. It has everything to do with the minorities. Obviously they are going to vote for Democrats, because the Democrats give minorities free money. There are more cities, and, therefore, more minorities, in the Kerry states than the Bush states.

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and some of the best schools in the nation are in mid-western states, I'll have you know, all of which will be carried by Bush.

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In fact, the smartest people in the nation IMHO are CEOs and self-made business people of that sort, and they vote overwhelmingly for Republicans, so I just don't understand your logic that the more "educated" you are, the more likely you are to vote for a Democrat.

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oh one more thing, our country is strong and united no matter what. When push comes to shove, we all accept our government, stay strong, and persevere.

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oh one more thing, our country is strong and united no matter what. When push comes to shove, we all accept our government, stay strong, and persevere.
Until the Republican starts opening their mouths bashing the following people:

Libearls
Hollywood celebrities
Northeasterners
West Coasters
Women on welfare
Unwed mothers
blacks
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or until the liberals start bashing

Christians
Southerners
Mid-Westerners
Nader-supporters
Rich people
everyone who doesn't agree with them (liberals are, as proven on this board, far more closed minded than conservatives)

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or until the liberals start bashing

Christians
Southerners
Mid-Westerners
Nader-supporters
Rich people
everyone who doesn't agree with them (liberals are, as proven on this board, far more closed minded than conservatives)
Well, with all this bashing, how can the country be united?

I'd love to see how united we will be when he reinstitutes the draft.
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Yeah the only states that gave more land area to Kerry were the New England ones (except New Hampshire.)

Also, being "more educated" has nothing to do with it. It has everything to do with the minorities. Obviously they are going to vote for Democrats, because the Democrats give minorities free money. There are more cities, and, therefore, more minorities, in the Kerry states than the Bush states.
actually, the "minorities" [hispanics] are what won bush florida.


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In fact, the smartest people in the nation IMHO are CEOs and self-made business people of that sort, and they vote overwhelmingly for Republicans, so I just don't understand your logic that the more "educated" you are, the more likely you are to vote for a Democrat.
Simple.. The smartest people like you mentioned often have Republican connections.. They do not vote for country's interests. They vote for interests of their businesses.. It's that simple.. Like, if they'd ask you, vote Democrats, and everyone in the country will live better 10% in 4 years.. Or vote Republican, and everyone will live on 5% better , but you personally will earn 50% more. What do you choose?

or, for instance, serious majority of those companies get a lot of their profit from out-sourcing.. Kerry's win will hurt their businesses in very direct way.. And Bush would never do anything to hurt a corporate America..

But really the smartest and the most intellectual people ( as opposite to the shewdest people ) like scientists, writers, engineers, they vote predominantly Dem.

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actually, the "minorities" [hispanics] are what won bush florida.
And that is just as dumb as it gets.. Someone go educate those people..

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But another thing that I think costed Kerry these elections were gays. He lost several percent of the vote because of them.. If there would be one biggest thing I'd blame this Kerry's loss on , I'd say - gays..

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But another thing that I think costed Kerry these elections were gays. He lost several percent of the vote because of them.. If there would be one biggest thing I'd blame this Kerry's loss on , I'd say - gays..
I tend to agree with you. It didn't help Kerry that 11 states had anti-gay initiatives on their ballots (mostly in the South and Midwest) because that is what brought out the (white) Christian conservatives, who apprently run the US now. And the rest of us who are just plain Christian don't count in their world.
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