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Shocking!!! Dutch moviemaker Theo Van Gogh killed on the street in Amsterdam!

This is really outrageous. What has become of the Netherlands?
Van Gogh made a movie about Pim Fortuyn, the politician who was killed, also on the street, in 2002. He was outspoken, and also made a movie about sexist messages in the Koran. He was a rebel with a big mouth but that's not a reason to kill someone...
The killer is a 26-year old guy with both Dutch and Morrocon nationality.

This is so shocking.

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This is unbelievable.. What's going on here in Holland

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jeez, a-dam is a fucked up place
and that maroccan killer is a fucked up guy
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It's a very strange indeed. You really have to ask yourself where it will all end.
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This murder was exactly 911 days after Pim Fortuyn was killed...Coincidence?
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This murder was exactly 911 days after Pim Fortuyn was killed...Coincidence?
Haha profetisch

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This murder was exactly 911 days after Pim Fortuyn was killed...Coincidence?
Yes.

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Maar ff serieus hij heeft dit zelf op de hals gehaald. Die gozer heeft zich meerdere keren respectloos over mensen hun geloofsovertuiging uitgelaten. Dat gezeik over democratie is ook overtrokken want er is een grens van wat je mag zeggen en de uitlatingen van v. Gogh waren bijna onverdraagzaam.

Het is ook een gegeven dat Moslims zeer gepassioneerd zijn over hun geloof en cultuur. Dan kan je toch hierop wachten. Ik ben het niet goed aan het praten maar van Gogh is echt geen martelaar voor de vrije-meningsuiting. Hij probeerde gewoon aandacht te trekken over de rug van de islam en de afgesneden clitoris van Hirsi Ali.

Jammer dat die dood is maar hij heeft het over zichzwlf heen geroepen. Dan heb ik nog niks gezegd over de domheid van de marocaan die hem heeft neergeknalt........

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Don't know anything about the people involved here, but, to rephrase what Helas wrote, may be muslims can't tolerate people who ridicule their religion or incite hatred against them and their culture.
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Don't know anything about the people involved here, but, to rephrase what Helas wrote, may be muslims can't tolerate people who ridicule their religion or incite hatred against them and their culture.
Its acts like these along with sept 11th, spain bombing, african embassy bombings, that make people question and even direct hate towards the islamic faith.

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Maar ff serieus hij heeft dit zelf op de hals gehaald. Die gozer heeft zich meerdere keren respectloos over mensen hun geloofsovertuiging uitgelaten. Dat gezeik over democratie is ook overtrokken want er is een grens van wat je mag zeggen en de uitlatingen van v. Gogh waren bijna onverdraagzaam.

Het is ook een gegeven dat Moslims zeer gepassioneerd zijn over hun geloof en cultuur. Dan kan je toch hierop wachten. Ik ben het niet goed aan het praten maar van Gogh is echt geen martelaar voor de vrije-meningsuiting. Hij probeerde gewoon aandacht te trekken over de rug van de islam en de afgesneden clitoris van Hirsi Ali.

Jammer dat die dood is maar hij heeft het over zichzwlf heen geroepen. Dan heb ik nog niks gezegd over de domheid van de marocaan die hem heeft neergeknalt........
WOW. So the guy had a big mouth and often said things which were controversial, and you tell us that he thus deserved this death.
You are one primitive bastard.

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Don't know anything about the people involved here, but, to rephrase what Helas wrote, may be muslims can't tolerate people who ridicule their religion or incite hatred against them and their culture.
Well, they'd better learn to tolerate this!!!
It's not nice when people ridicule your religion but it's no reason to KILL people!

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Maar ff serieus hij heeft dit zelf op de hals gehaald. Die gozer heeft zich meerdere keren respectloos over mensen hun geloofsovertuiging uitgelaten. Dat gezeik over democratie is ook overtrokken want er is een grens van wat je mag zeggen en de uitlatingen van v. Gogh waren bijna onverdraagzaam.

Het is ook een gegeven dat Moslims zeer gepassioneerd zijn over hun geloof en cultuur. Dan kan je toch hierop wachten. Ik ben het niet goed aan het praten maar van Gogh is echt geen martelaar voor de vrije-meningsuiting. Hij probeerde gewoon aandacht te trekken over de rug van de islam en de afgesneden clitoris van Hirsi Ali.

Jammer dat die dood is maar hij heeft het over zichzwlf heen geroepen. Dan heb ik nog niks gezegd over de domheid van de marocaan die hem heeft neergeknalt........
Oh yeah, sure. He deserved this...

En zo erg zijn de dingen die hij heeft gezegd nou ook weer niet. Ik begrijp niet waarom Van Gogh niet zijn mening over de Islam mag geven terwijl radicale Imams gezellig elke dag in de moskeeën hun haat jegens niet-Islamieten de vrije loop kunnen laten. Zullen we alle Moslims die iets slechts over Christenen hebben gezegd dan ook maar meteen vermoorden?

En natuurlijk ga je nu zeggen dat ie van jou helemaal niet vermoord had hoeven worden en dat je het niet goed keurt, maar je loopt het nu wel goed te praten dat iemand een persoon letterlijk afslacht op straat omdat ie zich negatief over een religie heeft uitgelaten.
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