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post #1 of 145 (permalink) Old Oct 31st, 2004, 08:42 AM Thread Starter
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What's up with the Americans?

How come Bush is still leading the race when the rest of the whole world is against him or hoping Kerry will win?
Is it that there are too many uneducated ppl in the states or they are just as simple and narrow minded as George?
I really can't believe after so much pain this brad has caused the world, he's still as popular as he is in his home country. Is it just that Kerry is considered so incapable as president?
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What's in "our" best interest isn't necessarily in theirs.

(is this a troll?)
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What's in "our" best interest isn't necessarily in theirs.

(is this a troll?)
Well if there is such a confict in interest between us and them, I don't see a day will come when the Americans will be liked by others.
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I would never base my votes on what other people want. I'll always base them on what best suits me at the given time. What best suits me might not best suit you. I couldn't care less. Not my problem.
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I would never base my votes on what other people want. I'll always base them on what best suits me at the given time. What best suits me might not best suit you. I couldn't care less. Not my problem.
ITA!

That said, I will be voting for Kerry.

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everyone should be forced to read that book and realise what's going on.l

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How come Bush is still leading the race when the rest of the whole world is against him or hoping Kerry will win?
Is it that there are too many uneducated ppl in the states or they are just as simple and narrow minded as George?
I really can't believe after so much pain this brad has caused the world, he's still as popular as he is in his home country. Is it just that Kerry is considered so incapable as president?
Most Americans do not care who the rest of the World wants as our president. Surely, other countries feel the smae way.

For Bush supporters, t's not about lack of education, simple or narrow-mindedness.

For most, it's about:

1. Terrorism- Many in America believe that GWB can keep us safer and is more hawkish.
2. Religion- Most practicing Christians will vote for GWB for moral issues. (Gay/Abortion,etc.)
3. Money - The wealthy and small business owners want to keep their tax cuts. Also, as much of a big spender GWB has been, most believe that JK will spend even more. How will JK pay for his programs? Will JK rescinding the tax cut to the wealthiest Americans and business owners slow the economy?

That said, JK has great momentum headed into Tues. and we'll just have to keep our fingers crossed.
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Ignore the polls - they underpoll youth and minorities (who vote more for Democrats than Republicans).

In 2000, the final polls averaged Bush 49, Gore 45

Final results: Gore 48.5, Bush 48


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Ignore the polls - they underpoll youth and minorities (who vote more for Democrats than Republicans).

In 2000, the final polls averaged Bush 49, Gore 45

Final results: Gore 48.5, Bush 48
thanks for keeping my hopes alive

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To be short. The reason why Bush is still leading in the polls is because more than 50% of their population can't spit past their lip and have no idea what the fuck is going on.
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Personally i wouldn't give a damn what the rest of the world thought about who i should choose as Scottish First Minister, and therefore I can't expect Americans to care either.

Has this happened in any other countries? e.g. when France went to the polls and promptly voted Le Pen into second place and into the run-off, certainly against the apparent wishes of the majority of the world? Did Austria listen to the protests from America and the rest when they went and elected Haider? Did the former Soviet countries give a damn what anyone else thought about their choices (often former Communist leaders)? The answer is no, because to the inhabitants of a country, nobody understands a country more than the people in it.

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Ignore the polls - they underpoll youth and minorities (who vote more for Democrats than Republicans).

In 2000, the final polls averaged Bush 49, Gore 45

Final results: Gore 48.5, Bush 48
I hope you are right.

But I worry, because I sense that this generation of young people is more conservative than in the past.
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nothings up with americans, except that they vote in what they think is THEIR own self-interest. i'm fairly certain that voting for Bush is a terrible terrible mistake but it reflects america's increasing push towards christian conservativism. even if Kerry IS elected (which i don't think is going to happen) it will at best delay the move in this direction.



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