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Anti-Bushies: Exactly what is it Bush has done or has not done that you object to?

Just one word of warning. If you say 'he's an idiot', I can easily post all the right wing stuff he told his supporters he'd do if he was elcted that he DID do. He may not be the sharpest tool inthe shed, but he delivered for the people who fund the Republican party.

What has Bush DONE, that you object to?

What has Bush NOT done, that you think needed doing?

Topics can include

* Water pollution
* Air pollution
* Mad Cow disease
* The War in Iraq
* The War in Afghanistan
* Poverty
* Genocide in the Sudan
* Race relations
* The race war along the Teaxs border
* Immigration on general
* Feminism
* job losses
* Social Security
* Health care
* North Korea
* Russia
* China
* Israel/Palestine
* Iran
* America as theocracy
* make some up

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Not blind. Not uninformed. We are party to atrocities. But the response of the world after 9/11 is worth noting. Even our most dire enemies offered aid. We should all be so lucky.
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Not blind. Not uninformed. We are party to atrocities. But the response of the world after 9/11 is worth noting. Even our most dire enemies offered aid. We should all be so lucky.
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The war in Iraq was a massive screwup, he's really pissed off a lot of countries and may have harmed America's relations with them for decades, he's homophobic, doesn't really get the concept of the separation of church and state, he's a warmonger, has managed to turn a big surplus into deficits, and several more reasons I don't feel like writing at the moment.

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The war in Iraq was a massive screwup, he's really pissed off a lot of countries and may have harmed America's relations with them for decades, he's homophobic, doesn't really get the concept of the separation of church and state, he's a warmonger, has managed to turn a big surplus into deficits, and several more reasons I don't feel like writing at the moment.
He laughs at international treaties, and he's probably the last person on earth to not see any link between pollution and climatic changes.
He turned down all the sympathy for USA around the world after 9/11, by going into an unnecessary war, and had to change his justifications so many times, the world still doesn't have a clear answer why the US and some governments (being manipulated) went into this mess. (Talk about his opponent being "flip flop" )
Now the world is more insecure as it was yesterday, and I think Bush really opened a "Pandora box", which could lead to a cataclysmic situation instead of stabilizing the region...

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What's wrong with China? It's trying to be like America in every way it seems at the moment.
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Originally Posted by Volcana
Just one word of warning. If you say 'he's an idiot', I can easily post all the right wing stuff he told his supporters he'd do if he was elcted that he DID do. He may not be the sharpest tool inthe shed, but he delivered for the people who fund the Republican party.

What has Bush DONE, that you object to?

What has Bush NOT done, that you think needed doing?

Topics can include

* Water pollution
* Air pollution
* Mad Cow disease
* The War in Iraq
* The War in Afghanistan
* Poverty
* Genocide in the Sudan
* Race relations
* The race war along the Teaxs border
* Immigration on general
* Feminism
* job losses
* Social Security
* Health care
* North Korea
* Russia
* China
* Israel/Palestine
* Iran
* America as theocracy
* make some up
education is missing from your list

for me this one of the main reasons i hate this man. soooooo much in no child left behind is focused SOLELY on making sure that kids from public schools are just unable to compete. shifting the focus on education from LEARNING to TESTING has soooooo many problems its not worth going into. futhermore demanding high stakes testing is often unrealistic and problematic, for example with this new law 3RD graders, that means 8,9 10 years are now subject to these high stakes test, but most are too to even understand the gravity of thier situtaion. forcing teachers to not teach to learn but instead teach to the test. so the goal is not to impart students with important basic knowlegde but to pass the test.

the result, is what has happened in texas, were in order to produce such high numbers of passing students, the requirements to pass have just hit rock bottom. today texas has the LOWEST level of challege and lowest requirements for passing most grade level examines of any state in the Union.

BUT, even though there ARE requirements that ALL students must met, THIS is not one of them so, home schooled and PRIVATELY school children continue to go to school to LEARN not to pass a test, this pushes them even futher ahead of publicly educated youth. making harder, later for publicly educated young adults to complete with those educated in any other setting.

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I have a general aversion for Bush but if I have to pick one thing why I am against him:

Starting the war in Iraq. It was unnecessary, it has costed a lot of money, it has created an enormous mess in a very dangerous region. War never brings a solution, it costs a lot of money, a lot of lives.
This conflict should have been solved by diplomacy.
The war in Iraq has made the world a bad, unsafe place and it does major harm to the economy.

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I have a general aversion for Bush but if I have to pick one thing why I am against him:

Starting the war in Iraq. It was unnecessary, it has costed a lot of money, it has created an enormous mess in a very dangerous region. War never brings a solution, it costs a lot of money, a lot of lives.
This conflict should have been solved by diplomacy.
The war in Iraq has made the world a bad, unsafe place and it does major harm to the economy.
Why do YOU care about the money? Are you an American?

Secondly, "War never brings a solution"? I guess the USA never should have gotten involved in WWII?
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bush has pissed me off because he was promising to bring osama and the people involved in 9/11 to justice but 3 years on osama is still free, al quaida (or however u spell it) is still terrorising other places and instead bush wasted time, mony and lives doing the whole iraq thing and hunting down saddam. hello? maybe if he put as much effort into capturing bin laden he might have been caught by now.

secondly, he's a hypocrite preaching about a land of freedom, opportunity, tolerance, democracy, the right to free thinking/speech etc when two people of the same sex do not have the same right as heterosexual couples. they do not have the freedom to marry each other legally. freedom, choice, democracy? MY ASS!

appart from that i like the guy.....he has inadvertantly given me alot of laughs

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bush has pissed me off because he was promising to bring osama and the people involved in 9/11 to justice but 3 years on osama is still free, al quaida (or however u spell it) is still terrorising other places and instead bush wasted time, mony and lives doing the whole iraq thing and hunting down saddam. hello? maybe if he put as much effort into capturing bin laden he might have been caught by now.
MOST of al-Qaeda is out of commission. But, you said "and the people involved"....well, I guess you're forgetting about Kalid Shaik Mohammed (sp?)(he was THE MASTERMIND behind the attacks)? And what about Ramsi bin Alshib (sp?) (he was another key operational planner in 9/11)? They have both been caught in Pakistan. The Taliban (who let al Qaeda hang out in Afghanistan) is now out of commission....as is most of al-Qaeda. For all we know, Osama is dead.

These other terrorist attacks that you speak of are mostly bombings in Iraq. Would you rather have them happen in Iraq or in the USA? Maybe some of this war could be to divert terrorist attention away from USA soil? Who knows?

BTW, al-Zarqawi (sp?), a key al-Qaeda figure, LIVES IN IRAQ....and had been living there since BEFORE the US went into Iraq. FYI, he is behind most of the terrorism that's going on in Iraq, and the US is trying to get him.

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secondly, he's a hypocrite preaching about a land of freedom, opportunity, tolerance, democracy, the right to free thinking/speech etc when two people of the same sex do not have the same right as heterosexual couples. they do not have the freedom to marry each other legally. freedom, choice, democracy? MY ASS!
That's what it boils down to for most you....gay marriage. BTW, KERRY DOESN'T SUPPORT GAY MARRIAGE EITHER!!!!!!!!!!
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did i say kerry does? i dont support Kerry either! i know fuk all about him.
and gay marraige isnt what it mostly boils down too so dont tell me what i do/dont should/shouldnt think. oh sorry, ur a bush supporter? guess it goes with the territory.

im glad that key figures in 9/11 have been captured but i think its funny how its ok to assume osama is probably dead. im sure that helps all the victims families who had to assume their loved ones were dead also because theyre bodies couldnt be found.

also funny that bush's family has such strong connections with the Bin laden family strange how the bin ladens were allowed to flee from america straight after 9/11 before the FBI got the chance to speak to them......

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These other terrorist attacks that you speak of are mostly bombings in Iraq. Would you rather have them happen in Iraq or in the USA? Maybe some of this war could be to divert terrorist attention away from USA soil? Who knows?
IC. We subject both Iraqi civilians and our own troops to getting blown to bits, plus provide a potent recruiting tool for al-Qaeda and its allies, based on a "Maybe... Who knows".
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MOST of al-Qaeda is out of commission.
That's not true. Most of what we knew of the original has been captured or killed. But Al Qaeda recruiting is up. (Here are links to a couple of articles.
http://www.iht.com/articles/89963.html
http://www.americanprogress.org/site...RJ8OVF&b=83010

Or just google "Al Qaeda recruiting" and start reading. Scary stuff.

And of course, there are the words of Sir Ivor Roberts, the British ambassador in Rome, who called Bush "the best recruiting sergeant for al-Qaeda".

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These other terrorist attacks that you speak of are mostly bombings in Iraq.
Spain, Egypt, Bali, Malaysia ... there's even some evidence they're invloved in Chechnya now.

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Would you rather have them happen in Iraq or in the USA? Maybe some of this war could be to divert terrorist attention away from USA soil? Who knows?
If I decide to have a killing contest with somebody, having it in an uninvolved neighbors house, killing members of that uninvolved family as I do it, is COMPLETELY IMMORAL. We could have simply fought Al-Qaeda in Afghanistan. It STILL wouldn't have been HERE. That arguement has NOTHING to do with Iraq.

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Geroge Bush and his foreign policies cause plenty of the conflict in the world because of his greed and self interest. Iraq is all about control of oil, and in general US tries to dominate the arab world. No wonder there is so much terrorism, its hardly surprising is it?
And thats to say nothing of the Kyoto protocal . Bush gives not a sh*t about anyone else apart from the US and his rich little buddies.
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the war in iraq has both its good side and bad side.

good: the whole world knows that he's serious about eradicating terrorism. i heard in the news that there were even talks that he and blair will be (or are....not sure here) nominated for the nobel prize.

bad: no nuclear missle (bomb) has been found until now. he looked like a total fool when he admitted that.
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