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"Study. That's all. You're not picking cotton.", Cosby to black students

Bill Cosby has a point and I agree with some of it because I did grow up in Ocean Township. However I got two words for Mr. Cosby. AUTUMN JACKSON. Luxuriate in that Mr. Huxtable!


Bill Cosby Urges Black Students to Study

By BOB LEWIS, Associated Press Writer

RICHMOND, Va. - Bill Cosby (news) spoke bluntly to students at Richmond's mostly black public schools Monday, urging them to dedicate themselves to graduation, not gangs, and to control anger that threatens to derail their dreams.

Cosby toured four schools with former Gov. L. Douglas Wilder, who is running for mayor. But instead of talking politics, Cosby stuck to his no-nonsense message to inner-city black children that at times has made him the target of criticism.

"Study. That's all. It's not tough. You're not picking cotton. You're not picking up the trash. You're not washing windows. You sit down. You read. You develop your brain," Cosby pleaded at Fred D. Thompson Middle School, where 65 percent of the 700 students meet low-income criteria for free or reduced-price lunches.

There and at George Wythe High School, the 67-year-old actor and comedian implored black children in their teens to begin studying in groups, for girls not to allow themselves to get pregnant and for boys not to compensate for love they lack at home with gangs or sex.

"I'd like to tell you I don't think things have changed since I was 14," Cosby said. "There are still old people who drink, do drugs — who will stop and take the time to tell you don't be like them. Have you heard them? Pay attention to them."

Cosby mentioned sex and an auditorium packed with sixth- through eighth-graders buzzed with laughter, catcalls and whistles. Then he mentioned algebra and the room momentarily quieted.

"Everybody knows about sex. Not too many people want to know about algebra," he said.

"Let's think about love. Let's think about where it is and where you can get it, but not sex. You're too young for sex," he said, joking with the children. "You don't have sex 'til you're 50 years old. What, that's too old? Well how about 49?"

In urging young blacks to find self-worth in academics, Cosby's comments were similar to those he made in May in Washington, D.C., when he upbraided some inner-city blacks for squandering opportunities won in the civil rights movement.

Cosby was criticized by some black activsits, just as Wilder has been in speaking bluntly in his mayoral race about black poverty, joblessness, crime and what he says is a lack of black leadership in this city of about 195,000.

Wilder and Cosby, however, said the visit grew out of their longtime friendship and its timing three weeks before election day had nothing to do with politics. Wilder, who in 1990 became the nation's first elected black governor, and Cosby, who helped desegregate prime-time television in the 1960s, said Cosby's appearance was not a tacit endorsement. Cosby said he wouldn't consider endorsing Wilder without first meeting his opponents.

"This is not a campaign piece," Wilder said. "I don't think it helps my campaign, I don't think it hurts my campaign."

With a national political portfolio, Wilder's campaign treasury and fame dwarf those of his opponents, including incumbent Mayor Rudolph McCollum.

Cosby was annoyed at the political speculation.

"I'm not running for any office and I think that Gov. Wilder — let's all face it — would not need to set up a smoke screen in order to get the two of us to get some kind of publicity," Cosby said.
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Why does Cosby just assume that every poor black will automatically fall into those traps?

I wish he could be more encouraging to the youth.


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I don't care about his sex life or extra -marital affairs, but Bill Cosby is right--- maybe a lil harsh, but this is what black youth need to hear. If they hear it often enough , their lives will turn out just right. I am an American citizen who is originally from the Caribbean and let me tell you, the attitude of "some" black American youth and "some" American black folk in general kills me Most Caribbean/West Indian people of African decent come to this country and find a way to get that education and make it , what's holding those born on this soil back??

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I don't care about his sex life or extra -marital affairs, but Bill Cosby is right--- maybe a lil harsh, but this is what black youth need to hear. If they hear it often enough , their lives will turn out just right. I am an American citizen who is originally from the Caribbean and let me tell you, the attitude of "some" black American youth and "some" American black folk in general kills me Most Caribbean/West Indian people of African decent come to this country and find a way to get that education and make it , what's holding those born on this soil back??

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Whites in the US didn't enslave immigrants from Africa and the Caribbean and they do not hold the same negative opinions about them as they do American born blacks.
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Why does Cosby just assume that every poor black will automatically fall into those traps?

I wish he could be more encouraging to the youth.
Because he is a snob. Always has been, always will be. He even looks down on middle-class blacks like myself.
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Whites in the US didn't enslave immigrants from Africa and the Caribbean and they do not hold the same negative opinions about them as they do American born blacks.
As if blacks in the Caribbean were not enslaved by whites. How the hell did you think they got to the Caribbean/West Indies anyway?? Keep holding onto this slavery grudge-- it will sure get you ahead
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As if blacks in the Caribbean were not enslaved by whites. How the hell did you think they got to the Caribbean/West Indies anyway?? Keep holding onto this slavery grudge-- it will sure get you ahead
Were blacks enslaved by whites in the Caribbean or in America?

I am very well aware of how blacks got the Caribbean.

It is not a grudge; it is the truth; most whites hold negative opinions about American born blacks and it all has to do with racial hatred, not anyting we did to them. BTW, I have a college degree, something 70% of whites in America don't have.
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As if blacks in the Caribbean were not enslaved by whites. How the hell did you think they got to the Caribbean/West Indies anyway?? Keep holding onto this slavery grudge-- it will sure get you ahead
Yes, and I'm sure every black in the West Indies is hard working and honest and loving and beautiful and just lives the ideal existence, and African Americans are the only bad Africans in the Diaspora.

You are right, most of the blacks from the Caribbean come to this country to work hard and achieve a better life, but what about the poor, lazy ones who stayed in their home nations?

I'm sure if only the ambitious, hard working African Americans could move somewhere better like West Indians can by coming to the US, you would not make such statements. I'm sure if we dropped the entire island of Jamaica with all its inhabitants in Virginia, they will not all be ambitious and hardworking.


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Yes, and I'm sure every black in the West Indies is hard working and honest and loving and beautiful and just lives the ideal existence, and African Americans are the only bad Africans in the Diaspora.

You are right, most of the blacks from the Caribbean come to this country to work hard and achieve a better life, but what about the poor, lazy ones who stayed in their home nations?

I'm sure if only the ambitious, hard working African Americans could move somewhere better like West Indians can by coming to the US, you would not make such statements. I'm sure if we dropped the entire island of Jamaica with all its inhabitants in Virginia, they will not all be ambitious and hardworking.

That is the poblem with most Caribbean blacks that come to America; most of them look down their nose at American born blacks it isn't even funny.
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That is the poblem with most Caribbean blacks that come to America; most of them look down their nose at American born blacks it isn't even funny.
I find that is the case with native-born Africans as well. Its sad. We all "wear the mask", as Paul Lawrence Dunbar says.


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I find that is the case with native-born Africans as well. Its sad. We all "wear the mask", as Paul Lawrence Dunbar says.
That's true too, but it is worse with Caribbean born blacks.
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That is the poblem with most Caribbean blacks that come to America; most of them look down their nose at American born blacks it isn't even funny.
What rubbish!! When anyone from another race sees a black person on the street, they can't tell where the hell they're from-- they just see a black person dammit. I am not turning my nose down at American blacks, but merely pointing out what is evident and speaking from experience. I just want to know why it's even possible for immigrants to come to this country and make it, yet Americans themselves can't. Anyway, keep making those excuses
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What rubbish!! When anyone from another race sees a black person on the street, they can't tell where the hell they're from-- they just see a black person dammit. I am not turning my nose down at American blacks, but merely pointing out what is evident and speaking from experience. I just want to know why it's even possible for immigrants to come to this country and make it, yet Americans themselves can't. Anyway, keep making those excuses
Just open your mouth and any whtie person can tell the difference between American born blacks and Caribbean born ones.

Again, not excuse making, just telling the truth, which if you were born in America, you would know. And if you were not so ignorant, you would know that most blacks have high school diplomas, 1 out of 5 attend college and most work.
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Just open your mouth and any whtie person can tell the difference between American born blacks and Caribbean born ones.

Again, not excuse making, just telling the truth, which if you were born in America, you would know. And if you were not so ignorant, you would know that most blacks have high school diplomas, 1 out of 5 attend college and most work.

The nerve of you to call anyone ignorant lizchris. Who cares about accents?? Not that I am expecting it, but give me a valid reason why 7 out of 10 West Indian/Caribbean people can come to America and make it while Americans can't/ don't. Personally , I believe it's not about slavery,but about priorities - DAMMIT and the FACT that West Indian/Caribbean people don't think that anyone owes them anything. They believe in hardwork PERIOD-- And that's the bottom-line lischris
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