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John Kerry: Wrong Side of History…Every Time!

April 22, 1971 Appears before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee claiming to represent all Vietnam veterans, accuses his brothers-in-arms of having “raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan, shot cattle and dogs for fun, poisoned food stocks, and generally ravaged the countryside of South Vietnam in addition to the normal ravage of war…”. Most Vietnam veterans vehemently rejected his characterization of events. Also asserted that “we cannot fight communism all over the world, and I think we should have learned that lesson by now”, which assertion was later proved categorically wrong by the Reagan administration, whose every effort against the Soviet empire John Kerry fought tooth and nail while in the Senate.

Kerry also admitted in his testimony that he had met with our enemy in Paris, to wit: “I have been to Paris. I have talked with both delegations at the peace talks, that is to say the Democratic Republic of Vietnam and the Provisional Revolutionary Government…” Important note: John Kerry was still on active duty with the Navy at that time, making him a traitor to the United States of America, an act of treason punishable under the Uniform Code of Military Justice.

1984 While Reagan is in the midst of a huge military buildup to win the Cold War, John Kerry issues a press release calling for the cancellation of the very weapons systems that made victory possible, including: the MX Missile, B-1 bomber, the critical SDI (Star Wars) defense-only system that was the key to victory in Reykjavik, Tomahawk Cruise missile, Apache helicopter, Patriot Missile (Tel Aviv sends their thanks, John!), AEGIS, Harrier, F-15, F-14, Phoenix air-to-air missile, Sparrow air-to-air missile, etc. Again and again John Kerry voted to cut vital defense systems, but now all of a sudden he wants to make a “stronger America”? Why don’t we just surrender to our enemies so John Kerry can feel he has accomplished something for America?

1985 Kerry, along with Sen. Tom Harkin, ventured to Nicaragua to meet with President Daniel Ortega, a Marxist revolutionary who idolized Fidel Castro and received aid from the Soviet Union. Kerry saw another Vietnam in the making because then-President Reagan was aiding freedom fighters in Nicaragua trying to overthrow Ortega's Sandinista regime. "If you look back at the Gulf of Tonkin resolution," Kerry told the Washington Post on April 23, 1985, "if you look back at the troops that were in Cambodia, this history of the body count and the misinterpretation of the history of Vietnam itself, and look at how we are interpreting the struggle in Central America and examine the CIA involvement, the mining of the harbors, the effort to fund the contras, there is a direct and unavoidable parallel between these two periods of our history."

Kerry, in office only a few months and with no consultation with the administration or the State Department, decided to negotiate with Ortega. He and Harkin walked away from Nicaragua with an agreement for direct talks with Washington. President Reagan flatly rejected it.

"Do we want to see the body bags coming back again?" asked Kerry. "I don't think Congress would let it happen. I think there is a very strong sensitivity just ingrained in people like me, Harkin and [Al] Gore by virtue of the Vietnam experience that sounds alarm bells. I think all across the Hill there is a generational feeling, even with those that didn't go. I don't think it's isolationist. I'm not. I think it's pragmatic and cautious about what we can achieve."

Following his trip to Nicaragua, Kerry insisted: "They just want peace. They don't want their daughter getting blown away on the way to teach! Or their sons disappearing. It's just terrible. I see the same sense of great victimization. The little kids staring wide-eyed and scared. It really hits home the same way as Vietnam. Sending our own troops. I just don't think Congress or the people will allow it. If we haven't learned something by now about talking rather than fighting ..."

Kerry was clearly convinced another Vietnam was shaping up in Central America.

But he was wrong. [Again!]

Reagan stuck to his policy of supporting the resistance to the Sandinista government. And the first time elections were held, the Sandinistas were swept out of office.

Today, Nicaragua, a strong U.S. ally in the region, has troops fighting side by side with Americans in Iraq.

1991 John Kerry voted against Operation Desert Storm to push Iraq out of Kuwait. I guess Bush I’s coalition wasn’t “real” enough to suit Kerry’s tastes.

2004 John Kerry, once again taking the wrong side against a communist adversary of the United States, prefers bilateral talks with North Korea, instead of including China, Russia, South Korea and Japan as Pres. Bush has done. Not surprisingly, North Korea likewise prefers bilateral talks. Once again, John Kerry comes out on the side of a communist regime. History shows him batting .1000 when it comes to being wrong on communism…or could it be he secretly supports communism???? He certainly did in the ‘70’s!

October 8, 2004 During the 2nd Presidential debate, John Kerry once again lies, as he has done repeatedly, about the alleged forced retirement of Gen’l Shinseki.

Hi, Libs! How's it feel to be wrong...

Again!


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Good post! I am glad that someone has guts to speak against Kerry. Even though I don't agree with everything Bush does, Kerry is not God's gift to the World either. I just wish people would take off their "bias" glasses and be fair. The war in Iraq is not Bush's doing. Saddam had 12 years to abide by rules and deadlines. He continually disregarded them.
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While i didn't have the energy, to sit through and read every word of your "spin masters guide to rewriting history" i did notice this

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1991 John Kerry voted against Operation Desert Storm to push Iraq out of Kuwait. I guess Bush I’s coalition wasn’t “real” enough to suit Kerry’s tastes.
i don't know if you got the memo, but the war is widely considered to be the worst in American history, and every historian i have talked to calls it "the only war America lost", because 'nam was never a "declared" war.

most of you may not be old enough to recall ODS but it was not happy times here in America, it was NOT popularly supported, in fact there was FAR more opposition to ODS then there is to this so called war.

you can tell young ems who don't remember the war that everyone supported it, but those of who were there know otherwise.

in short KERRY WAS RIGHT TO OPPOSE THE FIRST WAR IN IRAQ, because in spite of the spin masters guide to rewriting history, IRAQ I, was a complete and utter disaster.


while we are on the subject of "wrong side of history"

i am sure you spin masters know but dont care that Dick voted AGAINST:
HEAD START
and
MLK DAY

unless of course are saying that voting against MLK day and HEAD START was the RIGHT thing to do?

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Good post! I am glad that someone has guts to speak against Kerry. Even though I don't agree with everything Bush does, Kerry is not God's gift to the World either. I just wish people would take off their "bias" glasses and be fair. The war in Iraq is not Bush's doing. Saddam had 12 years to abide by rules and deadlines. He continually disregarded them.
You cannot be serious.
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Good post! I am glad that someone has guts to speak against Kerry. Even though I don't agree with everything Bush does, Kerry is not God's gift to the World either. I just wish people would take off their "bias" glasses and be fair. The war in Iraq is not Bush's doing. Saddam had 12 years to abide by rules and deadlines. He continually disregarded them.
dont worry, kabuki is wrong, saddam DID NOT abide by deadlines....
like when he didnt turn in his Weapons Of Mass Destruction on time.
that was soooooo wrong of him, this whole thing could have been avoided if he had just turned in his weapons.


its a good thing the good old U.S. of A. went in there found the weapons and .....

wait....

wait...

hmmm

weapons??.....

hmmm....

hmm....

still looking........

hmmm....

"WMD's come out, come out where ever you are!!"

hmmmm...

nothing...

hmmm...

ok, hmmm looks like there were NO WMDs....

but he still missed the deadline to turn them in, so there kabuki ....

really kabuki, i dont understand how you dont understand the logic, saddam failed to turn in the WMDs he didnt have by the deadline. so we can liberate the iraq people against their will. its all very logical.

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Good post! I am glad that someone has guts to speak against Kerry. Even though I don't agree with everything Bush does, Kerry is not God's gift to the World either. I just wish people would take off their "bias" glasses and be fair. The war in Iraq is not Bush's doing. Saddam had 12 years to abide by rules and deadlines. He continually disregarded them.
Point taken - Kerry is not God and I have never pretended him to be that.

But he (along with quite a few others) are more than capable than Bush of running our country.


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You cannot be serious.
The scary thing is that
they actually are!

Kerry's called a flip floper and yet how many
time has Bush changed his reason's for going to war?

First it was to get the WMD which they didn't find
which they would've known had he let Blitz finish
doing his job.

Also, Colin Powell had to apologize
for what he said.

The, when Bush could no long use the WDM argument
to justify the war, he immediately went to cloak it
under the guise of liberating the Iraqi people.

Finally, it's supposed to all steam from 9/11 when it was
obvious and Bin Laden and Al Qaeda boasted about it and
being behind it and yet Bin Laden and his core group are left
to persuit someone proven to have no ties to 9/11 by the
commission. So, you had Bin Laden there to concentrate your
efforts on and bring him and all his core group to justice.

Now, you have Iraq in chaos with people still not having electricty and what not and lawless destruction and Bin Laden still out there.
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Point taken - Kerry is not God and I have never pretended him to be that.

But he (along with quite a few others) are more than capable than Bush of running our country.
Right!

Kerry isn't a God, neither candidate is.

Yet after seeing what Bush has done it's time
for a change because 4 more years of Bush
is 4 more years of the same and that doesn't
sit well with many.

Kerry can atleast own up when he makes mistakes
unlike Bush IMO.
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dont worry, kabuki is wrong, saddam DID NOT abide by deadlines....
like when he didnt turn in his Weapons Of Mass Destruction on time.
that was soooooo wrong of him, this whole thing could have been avoided if he had just turned in his weapons.


its a good thing the good old U.S. of A. went in there found the weapons and .....

wait....

wait...

hmmm

weapons??.....

hmmm....

hmm....

still looking........

hmmm....

"WMD's come out, come out where ever you are!!"

hmmmm...

nothing...

hmmm...

ok, hmmm looks like there were NO WMDs....

but he still missed the deadline to turn them in, so there kabuki ....

really kabuki, i dont understand how you dont understand the logic, saddam failed to turn in the WMDs he didnt have by the deadline. so we can liberate the iraq people against their will. its all very logical.
Umm, jiggly you forgot that Saddam hid the WMD's in Iran, and Syria.

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Bush is a COWARD he won't go after any real threats: Bin Laden, Iran, or North Korea. Instead he goes after the pussies that he knows don't have any weapons of mass destruction. It's a good thing too, with this idiot Bush leading us to war, if we faced any real threats we'd be torn apart. We're having enough trouble getting Iraq that has no WMD, could you imagine what Iran, or North Korea could do to us.

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1984 While Reagan is in the midst of a huge military buildup to win the Cold War, John Kerry issues a press release calling for the cancellation of the very weapons systems that made victory possible, including: the MX Missile, B-1 bomber, the critical SDI (Star Wars) defense-only system that was the key to victory in Reykjavik, Tomahawk Cruise missile, Apache helicopter, Patriot Missile (Tel Aviv sends their thanks, John!), AEGIS, Harrier, F-15, F-14, Phoenix air-to-air missile, Sparrow air-to-air missile, etc. Again and again John Kerry voted to cut vital defense systems, but now all of a sudden he wants to make a “stronger America”? Why don’t we just surrender to our enemies so John Kerry can feel he has accomplished something for America?
Bush Sr's Secretary of Defense (uh, some guy named Cheney) wanted to cut many of the same weapons that Kerry did. (I guess he wants to surrender, too). The Patriot missle was later revealed to have been such a failure against Scuds that it couldn't beat Mark Phillipousis! And the MX missle (a pure "use it or lose it" first strike weapon) would have strengthened Gorbachev's hardline rivals (Ligachev, etc.) so much that the Cold War might have never ended.
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Bush Sr's Secretary of Defense (uh, some guy named Cheney) wanted to cut many of the same weapons that Kerry did. (I guess he wants to surrender, too).
Correct, Roger!

In 1992, after the fall of the Soviet Union. Nice try McSpinster , but John Kerry made a valiant effort to win the Cold War for Russia, in 1984 while it was still HOT , and all the revisionism in the world can't change that!

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Because sometimes the walls have ears, mboyle.

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