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Helen Lawson, how do you feel about the last few women to have won an Oscar?

With the holiday season coming up a lot of films are coming out that are just begging for Oscar nominations (Kidman in Birth, Bale in Machinist), I just wanna know what Helen Lawson and all the other posters who follow the film industry's biggest award what their feelings are regarding the last few women to have won Acting Oscars?

2003
BA - Charlize Theron for "Monster"
BSA - Renee Zellweger for "Cold Mountain"

2002
BA - Nicole Kidman for "The Hours"
BSA - Catherine Zeta-Jones for "Chicago"

2001
BA - Halle Berry for "Monster's Ball"
BSA - Jennifer Connelly for "A Beautiful Mind"

2000
BA - Julia Roberts for "Erin Brockavich"
BSA - Marcia Gay Harden for "Pollock"

1999
BA - Hillary Swank for "Boys Don't Cry"
BSA - Angelina Jolie for "Girl, Interrupted"

1998
BA - Gwyneth Paltrow for "Shakespeare In Love"
BSA - Dame Judi Dench for "Shakespreare In Love"

1997
BA - Helen Hunt for "As Good As It Gets"
BSA - Kim Basinger for "L.A. Confidential"

1996
BA - Frances McDormand for "Fargo"
BSA - Juliette Binoche for "The English Patient"

1995
BA - Susan Sarandon for "Dead Man Walking"
BSA - Mira Sorvino for "Mighty Aphrodite"

1994
BA- Jessica Lange for "Blue Sky"
BSA - Diane Wiest for "Bullets Over Broadway"
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I'm doing some rehearsals now, but I'll get more complete answers later. Short answer: They all suck and I'm way better than all of them.

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2003
BA - Charlize Theron for "Monster"
BSA - Renee Zellweger for "Cold Mountain"

Charlize was great, but it wasn't really an Oscar worthy role for winning. She captured the real woman, but she didn't have to actually DO the gas chamber scene like I did, she got off easy with the white light bullshit when she walks away. Getting ugly and playing a pathetic character is tough, but it's not that tough. I got pretty and made a ruthless killer appear downright nice. Now that's talent. She was the best of the year, but these days, that's not saying much.

I love Renee, hated Cold Mountain, she's so much better than that. She got screwed for Chicago. I expect big things from her!

2002
BA - Nicole Kidman for "The Hours"
BSA - Catherine Zeta-Jones for "Chicago

Kidman is ok, but all she did was put on a fake nose and act weird. Big deal. I voted for Renee and was NONE TOO HAPPY that Kidman got it. But Kidman wasn't terrible. Again, not bad, but that would have been laughed out of the theatres in the 50's.
Catherine Zeta-Jones is pure talent and gorgeous. I love her and I voted for her. She might be a total bitch in person, but she nailed Velma Kelly. Did I say how beautiful she is? I vote based on looks A LOT!

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2001
BA - Halle Berry for "Monster's Ball"

Anyone who knocks boots with Billy Bob Thorton deserves an honorary oscar just for enduring that. I think Nicole should have won that year for Moulin Rouge.

BSA - Jennifer Connelly for "A Beautiful Mind"
Well it was better than Marisa Tomei getting #2 for In the Bedroom

2000
BA - Julia Roberts for "Erin Brockavich"
Boring movie. I didn't think she was so great in it but given the competition it was a done deal as soon as the nominations came out

BSA - Marcia Gay Harden for "Pollock"
I didn't see Pollock so I can't comment.

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1999
BA - Hillary Swank for "Boys Don't Cry"
I think Annette Benning should have won for American Beauty...

BSA - Angelina Jolie for "Girl, Interrupted"
Mira Sorvino #2 ?


1998
BA - Gwyneth Paltrow for "Shakespeare In Love"

Please... next

1997
BA - Helen Hunt for "As Good As It Gets"
I hate Helen Hunt. The bitch was riding Jack's coat tails. She should have stayed on TV where she belongs. That being said, I love As Good As It Gets. That one or LA Confidential should have won best picture over that Titanic bullshit. I would have given it to LA Confidential

BSA - Kim Basinger for "L.A. Confidential"
If being on screen for less than 10 minutes constitutes being a best supporting actress, Kim won in a landslide. Ooooo look at me! I can dress in a cloak and screw russel crowe all the while pretending to be Veronica Lake. Who the hell does she think she is impersonating a celebrity? Honestly... the nerve of some people.

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Berry winning for Monster's Ball is blasphemy!!!! You've got women like Bjork (in Dancer in the Dark), Naomi Watts (in Mulholland Drive) who weren't even nominated. And why? Because Halle wanted to fuck both P. Diddy and Billy Bob Thorton??? She was the least deserving of all the nominees!
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Helen....I am glad someone posed this thread to you cause i have a question as well...(by the way, i find your opinions on all these actresses and the overall business of hollywood very entertaining although i have no idea who Helen Lawson is, i even did a search on yahoo just to brush up a bit, but feel free to PM me to give me more of your credits please!)

my question is, speaking of former Oscar Winners...this coming tuesday, Tatum Oneal (who i believe is still the youngest oscar winner ever?) has her autobiography coming out, saw her on Access Hollywood last night and she looks great (love that smoky/druggie raspy voice of hers) she still doesnt hold nothing back, if her book is 1/2 as good as her interviews, it should be a ripper....but what do you think of her chances of having a big part again in hollywood, and did she ever really show her true potentinal? Shes shown up recently in little parts like on Sex and the city and a week or so ago on Law and order CI...but isnt she better than that?

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HERES THE COVER..OUT NEXT TUESDAY...SHE LOOKS PRETTY GOOD....I AM A SUCKER FOR THESE TRASH AUTOBIOGRAPHYS....SHE HAS JOHN TO THANK FOR THE BOAT LOAD OF MONEY SHES GONNA MAKE NOW...IF HE HAD KEPT HIS MOUTH SHUT AND NOT SPREAD HIS STORIES ABOUT HER IN HIS BOOK, SHE WOULDNT HAVE A BOOK DEAL TO BEGIN WITH

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I tried IMDB and I could not find anyone named Helen Lawson. So if you want, Hel, you can also PM me and tell me who you are.
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I tried IMDB and I could not find anyone named Helen Lawson. So if you want, Hel, you can also PM me and tell me who you are.
so i'm not the only one who doesnt know? Why do i fear a diva out-rage attack soon? Dont go off Helen, at least not until you tell me your thoughts on Tatum

shap_half...Helen Lawson was a character in Valley of the Dolls...a movie in the 60s with patty duke (I think) and Sharon Tate (the lady the Manson Family murdered) other than that, i dont know?

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[QUOTE=Sally Struthers]1999
BA - Hillary Swank for "Boys Don't Cry"
I think Annette Benning should have won for American Beauty...

BSA - Angelina Jolie for "Girl, Interrupted"
Mira Sorvino #2 ?

I agree about Annette Benning...i thought she was awesome...we'll never hear from Hilary Skank again

also thought Frances Mcsomething from Fargo was a joke...hated the movie and hated her in it...anyone else would have been better although i dont even recall any other nominees

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Helen....I am glad someone posed this thread to you cause i have a question as well...(by the way, i find your opinions on all these actresses and the overall business of hollywood very entertaining although i have no idea who Helen Lawson is, i even did a search on yahoo just to brush up a bit, but feel free to PM me to give me more of your credits please!)

my question is, speaking of former Oscar Winners...this coming tuesday, Tatum Oneal (who i believe is still the youngest oscar winner ever?) has her autobiography coming out, saw her on Access Hollywood last night and she looks great (love that smoky/druggie raspy voice of hers) she still doesnt hold nothing back, if her book is 1/2 as good as her interviews, it should be a ripper....but what do you think of her chances of having a big part again in hollywood, and did she ever really show her true potentinal? Shes shown up recently in little parts like on Sex and the city and a week or so ago on Law and order CI...but isnt she better than that?
Darren: I'll let you in on a little Hollywood secret. Most actors and actresses are fucked up messes, egos out of control, totally insecure, mentally ill, and totally psycho. I'm not saying everyone, but I'd say a good 80%. Myself included. It's part of what it takes to make it in showbiz. This of course leads to chain smoking, massive drinking, out of control drug abuse, you name it. Tatum hasn't done a real good job covering this up or keeping it under control, but she's no different than probably 75% of Hollywood, only she's not discrete about it.

Tatum's career is washed up, hence this stupid book. She either needs money or publicity, or both, though I think she got a fortune from McEnroe. Child stars rarely make it big as adults. Neely O'Hara was an exception, though her adult success did not match her teen success, but at least it was still very good. I don't think she's tried that hard to work, either. I thought she was actually pretty good on Sex in the City, she's a good actress, but she's washed up. She's a haggard, drugged-out 40, it doesn't help!

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2001
BA - Halle Berry for "Monster's Ball"
BSA - Jennifer Connelly for "A Beautiful Mind"

Halle Berry, where do I start? Another "look like shit and be pathetic and I can get an Oscar" performance. Where the hell did glamor go? She was ok, she'll never do anything remotely decent again. Her chances for another Oscar are equal to like mine and Marlee Matlin's. I'm 86 and Marlee is deaf. You get the picture.
Jennifer Connelly was fine, I didn't vote for her, but it was ok. My standards for supporting actress are less, I can vote crazy and whimsy in this category (and have in the past).

2000
BA - Julia Roberts for "Erin Brockavich"
BSA - Marcia Gay Harden for "Pollock"
I really don't care for Julia Roberts. She's been in some decent stuff, but I didn't think Erin Brokovich was it. It was dumb and melodramatic, but at least she looked good. I mean, the push up bra, her hair always looked good, Julia at least kept it at a hottie level that i have to respect, given I won an Oscar for playing a woman on death row, all the while looking like I'd just left Elizabeth Arden.

Harden was really good in Pollack, low key, but really held the movie together. She's a good actress and been in some decent stuff.

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1999
BA - Hillary Swank for "Boys Don't Cry"
BSA - Angelina Jolie for "Girl, Interrupted"

This year sucked. I kind of wanted to vote for Bening, but it's tough playing a man when you're a dame, so I looked past the meager virtues and production values and shitty script of Boys Don't Cry and went with Swank. I'm a little disappointed her career hasn't really taken off, she's pretty decent looking. I guess she's a mediocre actress except when she's playing a man. Oh well, I guess we have the 90's Louise Fletcher!
Jolie was brilliant. Simply brilliant. Everyone I know voted for her. It was a flash in the pan/Iva Majoli-type win, but at least the broad's making big bucks now, even if her films suck. Again, I don't expect much from supporting actress winners.

1998
BA - Gwyneth Paltrow for "Shakespeare In Love"
BSA - Dame Judi Dench for "Shakespreare In Love"

Both are fabulous actresses and Paltrow is beautiful. I vote based on looks. A lot.

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1997
BA - Helen Hunt for "As Good As It Gets"
BSA - Kim Basinger for "L.A. Confidential"

They both sucked. I still can't believe Hunt was even nominated, it was such a crap performance. I guess I'm getting too old. Kim had good make-up and mastered the mysterious-yet-vulnerable look. Barf! L.A. Confidential was a great movie that could have been a classic. It should have ended tragically like Chinatown, and it would be a classic. Instead, they smacked on some happy bullshit ending and now it's just a sappy pile of crap.

1996
BA - Frances McDormand for "Fargo"
BSA - Juliette Binoche for "The English Patient"

I loved Fargo and voted for it across the board. It's the kind of non-traditional role that doesn't win Oscars, but I voted and she won!
Binoche, she's beautiful. I vote based on looks. A lot. She's also someone who will keep her looks and hand out shitty technical awards beforehand in a hotel ballroom, so she's with the program and on board.

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