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post #1 of 141 (permalink) Old Sep 19th, 2004, 04:48 AM Thread Starter
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ELECTION RUN AND WON: Howard gets fourth term as Prime Minister

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I'm voting Howard. Latham doesn't appeal to me at all. The Liberals seem to have dismantled his policies well enough, too. Latham I think needs to serve at least one term as shadow PM before he's ready for the job as Prime Minister of Australia.

YES, I know that there's more than two political parties, but, face it, Liberal and Labour will get 95% of the votes anyway. If you're voting for other parties, please feel free to comment.

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I am voting Liberal to.

I think one day Latham probably will be Prime Minister but he still has much to learn.

None of the Labor policies have made me sit up and take notice and we live in a very conservative politcial society. Whether Liberal or Labor are in power doesn't matter. Their policies are not to dramatically different and I say 'if it ain't broke don't fix it'

I can also guarantee that regardless of promises to withdraw troops from Iraq there is NO WAY Latham will be able to do this - trust me, I am from a military family and my father knows what's what - it ain't gonna happen people so don't vote for him for that reason alone! You will be wasting your time and your vote!

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I respect a man that is happy to let G.W.B. know what he thinks of him... but, I'm one of those green people lol I dunno really... I find polling time so amusing, seeing all of the different parties listed, with the strangesy names!!

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Both make my skin crawl....
Howards blind, American influenced, approach to both foreign and domestic policy needs to be ended. He has really tarnished our international reputation and put Australia on the world stage for all the wrong reasons.

His recent alliance with the Catholic Church and the setting up of additional Catholic Universities, whilst the public education system is starved, is a vile, perverse injustice.

Democracy....in my book, was founded on the notion of separation of Church and State...Howards definition appears to be very different to mine.

Both parties have dreadful education funding policies...as a teacher i am disgusted with both approaches.

And, as a gay man I am viewed as a second class citizen by both, so I cannot give my vote to either.

Neither leader represents ME as a voter...so I will be steering away from both....as much as our voting system allows.

The Labor party have struck a notable deal with the GREENS so my GREEN VOTE will be heading the way of the LABOR party by default....a thought that does not make me happy, but that is the nature of a two-party preferred system....what can you do.

I hope many more voters vote GREEN...it sends a nice disatisfied message to the major parties.

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I study Land Management and Conservation at UWS, and so many of the people out there are for the Greens. Its nice to see, instead of people voting for the more mainstream parties. Most people I know from uni are pro-Greens. Including the Social Ecology students lol, I love the hippy students, I swear!

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I study Land Management and Conservation at UWS, and so many of the people out there are for the Greens. Its nice to see, instead of people voting for the more mainstream parties. Most people I know from uni are pro-Greens. Including the Social Ecology students lol, I love the hippy students, I swear!
Hey, good for you!!!

I'll be voting Greens too with preference given to Labor.

Basically anyone BUT Liberal. Their policies on education, health and the environment are appalling. The three areas that really matters to me.

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I don't want to vote for anyone.

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I'm not that keen on handing over the country to the trade unions, but I'll still vote for Latham. Howard is a relic of another time that is thankfully long, long past. I don't mean his actual age, so don't accuse me of ageism ... Bob Hawke, for example, is older than Howard, but has more or less kept up with the times. I mean his determination to take us back to the 1950s.

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I'm not voting but if i did I would vote Labor. I agree that Howard lives in the 50's, and hes spent too long as PM already. He done nothing but screw over the education system and increase fees etc, and done nothing for humanitarian issues. My electorate is safe Labor anyway, so even if i did vote it wouldnt really count for much.
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I do think that the ALP should have put someone other than Latham as their leader though, he doesnt appeal to many mainstream people, and will not be elected IMO. They would have stood a better chance with someone else. Macklin seems like a sensible choice, shes done very well for the party in the last few years, and is sensible and level headed, but maybe she didnt want the responsibility.
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I'm voting Lib's, because I've grown up in a Lib's area, and most of my family does. I just don't think Latham can win it, he's quite dangerous to the country.

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I do not know who to vote. John Howard and the Liberals have done a good job with Australia's economy. So far, they've stabalised the market and diversified potential markets so that our exporters will not be as badly affected when the global market sours. The FTA with the US proves this.

But I do not like their approach to the Tampa and Children Overboard Issues. What they did basically violated almost every international convention there is and placed the lives of many innocent people at risk. I cannot believe that once those two controversies were over, the asylum seekers who were forced to leave Australia were found to have been 'genuine' refugees. And the sad thing was that after this, less than 9% of the Australian public did not supported the 'Mandatory Detention' policy.

And Mark Latham confuses me. He has not said much about the economy - the ALP has traditionally been weaker at this. He seems inexperienced as well. But he does have a fairly convincing health policy. Plus he has promised to abolish that ridiculous 25% increase on HECS fees. If he keeps his word - I don't expect him to - then I might be leaning towards the ALP. And John Howard has already been in office for three terms. It is time to give someone else a 'fair go'.
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Only two more sleeps until the election!

Johnny Howard is looking good at the moment I think.

Latho is getting desperate I think.

Anyone here listen to the radio program "Tough Love"? (10am-12pm weekdays on Triple M). I love that show but I was pretty shocked to hear Mick Molloy's comments about John Howard. He truly, deeply seems to hate him! He's the most blatant pro-Labour media presonality I think I've ever seen O_o.

I'm still voting Liberal.

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im not even voting my my family is going for labour on the basis that liberal are always concentrating on the rich and those with big businesses and that labour is for the people. plus i hate john howard and think he's an idiot. anyone else seen that ad where its got howard and costello singing? omg thats the funniest ad and then costello's face is just gold.

its close atm, around 47% for the coalition, 39% for labour, 7% for greens based on the latest opinion poll which makes it round 47-46

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Even Greener than my previous post...
The two major party clowns are hideous...and as for policy...argh...and the vile preference deals both have struck recently in order to keep the Greens out of the Senate are perverse.
I am absolutely disgusted and feel sick at the prospect of having either as leader.
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