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GWB's plan to drug preschoolers

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August 19, 2004

If you have young children or grandchildren, the information I'm going to share should scare you. It should make you angry. But above all it should make you want to stand up and protect them from what I consider a very dangerous threat: mandatory psychiatric screening of each and every school-aged child.

That's right. The plans are in motion to screen every schoolchild for ADHD, depression, social anxiety disorder, and behavior problems. In fact, it's already in effect in Illinois, Texas, and New Jersey.

A Disturbing Trend in Our Schools In April 2002, President Bush created the New Freedom Commission on Mental Health. Its objective was to enhance mental health services to those in need. But it has taken a diabolical twist. The commission has concluded that there is a need to search for mental disorders, especially in children, and to do this, they plan mandatory mental health screening for everyone,
starting with preschoolers.

According to the Commission's 2003 report, "Quality screening and early intervention should occur in readily accessible, low-stigma settings, such as primary health care facilities and schools."

It is irrational to think that you need to screen 52 million schoolchildren to find those who need help. The ones who really need help are obvious.

But it gets worse. The report goes on to say, "...the extent, severity, and far-reaching consequences make it imperative that our Nation adopt a comprehensive, systemic approach to improving the mental health status of children." That means drugging them!

52 Million Potential Customers The New Freedom Commission's proposed treatment programs are based on the Texas Medication Algorithm Project (TMAP). TMAP, which was first used in Texas in 1996 and has since expanded to other states, is a set of very specific medication recommendations, virtually all of them the newest, most expensive, psychotropic drugs available.

It doesn't take a genius to see that this sinister scheme has been masterminded by the pharmaceutical companies, who stand to gain billions of dollars by pushing expensive drugs on our children.

According to Allen Jones, an inspector who worked in the Pennsylvania Office of the Inspector General, many of these companies contribute large sums of money to political parties and to people in key decision-making roles. When he blew the whistle on this, he was promptly sacked.

Trolling for Patients If you want to see just how biased and ridiculous these screening procedures
are, visit some of the drug companies' websites and look at their questionnaires. Whether they are trying to weed out depression, social anxiety disorder, ADHD, or other psychological maladies, the types of
questions they ask are equally absurd.

I took one test, entitled the Zung Assessment Tool, at the Prozac website. You respond to 20 phrases with one of the following: not often, sometimes, often, or all the time. Phrases include, "I feel downhearted, blue, and sad." "I have trouble sleeping through the night." "I eat as much as I used
to." "I have trouble with constipation." "My mind is as clear as it used to be." "I am more irritable than usual." "I find it easy to make decisions." (As you see, some of these questions are confusing, if not irrational.)

I selected "sometimes" for every phrase, as a normal, healthy person would. My score was 50, and I was advised to show this test to my doctor and "ask him or her to evaluate you for depression."

Folks, sometimes feeling irritable, unable to sleep, etc., are hardly indicative of a serious mental malfunction. Feeling out of sorts from time to time is a normal part of being human. Yet according to this test, I may be a candidate for an antidepressant.

Drugging of Children Is Evil Widespread psychiatric screening of our children isn't only unnecessary,
it's evil.

Children are not miniature adults. Childhood is filled with dreams, vivid imagination, and rollercoaster rides of emotion that we as grownups only vaguely recall. The totality of these experiences is essential in order for children to become fully developed adults.

Psychotropic drugs prevent children from truly experiencing childhood. The drugged child is not real. He doesn't grow into and out of various life stages, whether pleasant or unpleasant. Psychiatric drugs prevent normal development.

The pharmaceutical drug lords, lusting for the billions of dollars that massive psychiatric screening and treatment will add to their coffers, will destroy the essence of your child.

Think back on your childhood. Remember your experiences. Now ask yourself, would you be better off today if five or six years of your childhood had been spent in a drugged-out state?

In my opinion, psychotropic drugs are even worse than some illegal ones. Children are drugged simply because some harebrained test designed by a pharmaceutical company says they should be drugged. Neither the child nor the parent has any say at all in the matter.

What Can You Do? Here's what you can do about it. First of all, refuse to sign those consent
forms when they come home from your child's school - if they can't test them, they can't drug them. Next, take a moment to write your congressional representatives and voice your concerns.

Also, email Laura Bush at firstlady@whitehouse.gov. Ask her how she'd like to have her daughters screened and drugged without her or their consent. We need to get mothers involved.

Finally, don't just say no to drugs. Say no to psychiatric screening

P.S. This article was written for the latest issue of Health & Healing, but
I want to make sure everyone knows about this, newsletter subscriber or not.
To learn more about Health & Healing, and to preview what's in next month's
issue, be sure to check out the information below.

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That is what happens when the prescription drug companies give millions of dollars to the Republican fund.

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well, the dems aren't much better on this issue.

they are both fucking evil.


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can we get a link, please?

or was this an email?


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That is what happens when the prescription drug companies give millions of dollars to the Republican fund.
you right about that. i cant image anyone who thinks of children as human beings haveing any supprt for this at all.

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can we get a link, please?

or was this an email?
not its wasnt an email. it was from a watchdog site that lists f-ed things about medications or medication related things.

http://www.prozactruth.com/forceddrug.htm

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not its wasnt an email. it was from a watchdog site that lists f-ed things about medications or medication related things.

http://www.prozactruth.com/forceddrug.htm
thanks for the link.

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We got medical screening as children. Once a year, all school children visit a doctor who tests hearing, eye sight, whether the back is straight, they get measured and weighed and compared to the average chart (which they updated this week, apparently we're now 2 inches taller than 20 years ago) and we got IQ tested too (in order to give us advice on what to study). Mental health screening isn't a big leap from this.

The article uses the questions on the website as evidence the screeing is irrational. I doubt that doctors who check children will use these questions.

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We got medical screening as children. Once a year, all school children visit a doctor who tests hearing, eye sight, whether the back is straight, they get measured and weighed and compared to the average chart (which they updated this week, apparently we're now 2 inches taller than 20 years ago) and we got IQ tested too (in order to give us advice on what to study). Mental health screening isn't a big leap from this.

The article uses the questions on the website as evidence the screeing is irrational. I doubt that doctors who check children will use these questions.
i think it's a huge leap.

i've known too many people who were misdiagnosed as children. and who had serious issues cos of it.

i dont think these drugs help much... they dont get to the core. they just throw a veil over a more serious issue.


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i think it's a huge leap.

i've known too many people who were misdiagnosed as children. and who had serious issues cos of it.

i dont think these drugs help much... they dont get to the core. they just throw a veil over a more serious issue.
I agree that they shouldn't give drugs too quickly. I've always hated it when people would immediately offer me an aspirin when I happened to mention I had a light headache. A lot of aches go away on its own.

If you take drugs for everything, you soon can't live without them. They certainly shouldn't be given kids drugs, not unless it's 100% certain they need them.

I guess my problem with the article is that they're the ones jumping to the drugging bit and I generally distrust any article that ends with "send an e-mail to this address..."

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We got medical screening as children. Once a year, all school children visit a doctor who tests hearing, eye sight, whether the back is straight, they get measured and weighed and compared to the average chart (which they updated this week, apparently we're now 2 inches taller than 20 years ago) and we got IQ tested too (in order to give us advice on what to study). Mental health screening isn't a big leap from this.

The article uses the questions on the website as evidence the screeing is irrational. I doubt that doctors who check children will use these questions.
no they dont use theose questions they use worse ones.

"do you get bored in class" was one that i saw that has stayed with me forever.

i mean just look at what defines a child with ADD or ADHD and the defination is really insane. plus i dont think you know how expensive these drugs are. some run 60$ PER PILL. and thats a lot of money to spend for a child who "gets bored in class"

EDIT: i know u said that you are oppesed to drug treatment as a first option, but thats the whole point for these tests. they are not even considering other none drug options like counseling or a change in diet.

the other thing is that i do think that medical care is important, i have always been agaisnt maditory iq tests for children. its really pointless. a good look at class work, talk with the parents and teachers will give you more than you need to know. from that you can asses if the child is at risk for learning disablities. in my city there are no such mandatory IQ tests. and the idea would likely lead to riots up in here.

there is a very interesting thread around here about how go an assesment iq tests are for intellegence, i will look for it laters.

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For the record, we never got an actual IQ as result, just how you compared to the rest of the children. It was meant to help children choose the right options in school. Our school system has three levels. Too often, parents push their kid in the highest level even when it's just too difficult for the child. These kind of tests tell what level, what kind of courses would be good for the child. Parents tend to exaggerate their child's accomplisments.

School results were also taken into account but they don't often tell the whole story. My eldest brother is too smart, a real genius. These days there are special classes for such children, but those didn't exist when he was young. He was bored in school because it was all too easy for him, as a result his marks weren't that high at all. Just going by his school results, you'd think he was average.

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Alot of those drugs, especially for ADD are highly addictive.


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The ones who really need help are obvious.
If that was true, there wouldn't be so many children who failed to get identified. My sister always had problems in school (and life in general), but the teachers never pegged her as a "problem child" because she wasn't disruptive and wasn't flunking out. When she got to university she had herself assessed - turns out that she had ADD which explained a LOT. Had they found out sooner it could have saved her a few years of floudering, perhaps?

My brother didn't get identified with his problem until he was nearly in highschool.

Very early screening is a GOOD idea, imo. Not all children in need of help are noticable - that is a load of bullocks.

As for the rest... I'll comment on that later. I only read the first few paragraphs because I have to get back to MY real reading now
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