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Is Western Society Compatible with the Rest of the World?

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Bottom line is that Islam is compatible with Western society. It is Western society that all too often is not compatible with the rest of the world.








From another thread, but an interesting perspective.

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If it wasn't for the western society, the rest of the world would have no smartphones now.
And tennisforum wouldn't exist. Fact.
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From another thread, but an interesting perspective.

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I see it as a bizarre thread because, based on your post, you are not looking at the "rest of the world" - at all. You're discussing only nations that are Islamic theocracies. And you're also not discussing society, compatibility or even values. You're just looking at the effects of military incursions. A totally different thing.

Most of the world is doing well on predominately Western values including China, Russia, and, in many respects, India. There's also Japan, S.Korea, etc.

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Is the world compatible with the planet earth?
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I see it as a bizarre thread because, based on your post, you are not looking at the "rest of the world" - at all. You're discussing only nations that are Islamic theocracies. And you're also not discussing society, compatibility or even values. You're just looking at the effects of military incursions. A totally different thing.

Most of the world is doing well on predominately Western values including China, Russia, and, in many respects, India. There's also Japan, S.Korea, etc.
Syria under Assad, Iraq under Hussein or Libya under Kaddafi weren't theocracies.
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I see it as a bizarre thread because, based on your post, you are not looking at the "rest of the world" - at all. You're discussing only nations that are Islamic theocracies. And you're also not discussing society, compatibility or even values. You're just looking at the effects of military incursions. A totally different thing.

Most of the world is doing well on predominately Western values including China, Russia, and, in many respects, India. There's also Japan, S.Korea, etc.
Not necessarily agreeing with @wta_zuperfann but highlighting and exploring his point of view and argument in another thread.

India, invaded and colonized by the west. China, invaded and subjected by the west to a "Century of Humiliation" as the Chinese call it. Russia, surrounded by NATO forces with nuclear weapons pointed. Japan, atomic bombed by the west. Military adventures are part of western society's history and present.

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If it wasn't for the western society, the rest of the world would have no smartphones now.
And tennisforum wouldn't exist. Fact.
That might be the biggest crime by the West, tennisforum.

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How Western is Western Society anyway?

A lot of "Western" stuff was imported from other cultures at some point, or created by non-Westerners who were living in Western societies (like, for example, African-Americans inventing massive swathes of both modern high and pop culture by blending their traditions with elements from their forced encounter with Western "civilization.")

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All the liberals in the West must have nothing else to do. Now they are even lamenting their own society not being compatible with the rest
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Not necessarily agreeing with @wta_zuperfann but highlighting and exploring his point of view and argument in another thread.

India, invaded and colonized by the west. China, invaded and subjected by the west to a "Century of Humiliation" as the Chinese call it. Russia, surrounded by NATO forces with nuclear weapons pointed. Japan, atomic bombed by the west. Military adventures are part of western society's history and present.
You do have a point about those military incursions but I think you know they're different to the mid-east wars that you mentioned in your OP.


And as I already pointed out most of the world is very compatible with Western society. You're focused on the same topic that the initial thread is covering : Western society - Islamic theocracies.

Many glaring flaws aside, the modern West still has overall done more to advance individual freedoms and technical advancement than any society in the past 1,500 years. You can thank liberalism for that.

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Not necessarily agreeing with @wta_zuperfann but highlighting and exploring his point of view and argument in another thread.

India, invaded and colonized by the west. China, invaded and subjected by the west to a "Century of Humiliation" as the Chinese call it. Russia, surrounded by NATO forces with nuclear weapons pointed. Japan, atomic bombed by the west. Military adventures are part of western society's history and present.

That might be the biggest crime by the West, tennisforum.
Which Japan are you talking about? The innocent bystander in WWII or the Japan that committed atrocities against the Chinese, Koreans, Philippines etc. Or do you hold them in such contempt that you expect less of them than you do the West?

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Which Japan are you talking about? The innocent bystander in WWII or the Japan that committed atrocities against the Chinese, Koreans, Philippines etc. Or do you hold them in such contempt that you expect less of them than you do the West?
Of course not. I'm pointing out the West's military adventures aren't confined to what pov wrongly describes as Islamic theocracies of Syria, Libya, Iraq. Nor that the discussion is confined to the West's relationship to only one part of the region of the globe.

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All the liberals in the West must have nothing else to do. Now they are even lamenting their own society not being compatible with the rest
Because one person created a thread? Oh how much better this world would be if lazy people would stop generalizing for their benefit.

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All the liberals in the West must have nothing else to do. Now they are even lamenting their own society not being compatible with the rest
They are westernphobe.
Yet, most wouldn't resist a month in the rest of the world, especially in islamic countries.

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As I commented the other day the problem with that picture in the OP is that some of those events were not caused by western countries.

-Yemen has been invaded by a Saudis lead army.
-Libya was a civil war that the government was winning until western air strikes helped save the rebellion from being massacred.
-Syria is just one large mess of a civil war.

Europe and the U.S have had some pretty bloody civil wars and conflicts which were never blamed on other parts of the world yet somehow we are suppose to say everything in the Middle East is due to the West which ignores the real problem in the Middle East which is between the Iranian backed Shia verses the Saudis backed Sunnis.

The only thing we can blame the west for is the mess that is Iraq.

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As I commented the other day the problem with that picture in the OP is that some of those events were not caused by western countries.

-Yemen has been invaded by a Saudis lead army.
-Libya was a civil war that the government was winning until western air strikes helped save the rebellion from being massacred.
-Syria is just one large mess of a civil war.

Europe and the U.S have had some pretty bloody civil wars and conflicts which were never blamed on other parts of the world yet somehow we are suppose to say everything in the Middle East is due to the West which ignores the real problem in the Middle East which is between the Iranian backed Shia verses the Saudis backed Sunnis.

The only thing we can blame the west for is the mess that is Iraq.
Bc it's easy instead of looking in the mirror

A few years ago there was a brave artical in one of the Arabic papers (I can search it) who are the real enemy of the Muslim world, they love to blame my country in everything bad thst is happening to them but the author address the topic and say that lack if education, right, freedom and corruptuibd are their real enemy

All they do is cry and bitch.


My country and ppl resirected from the dead and ashes of my relatives and build a small smart empire super modern. Do u see us blaming the world and search excused why we are uneducated that don't contribute nothing to the world?

Hell no.


The West the West
Wake up and contribute something lazy ppl.


If u could see how the Muslim Israeli are in here, doctors, lawyers etc st. Working hard bc they knows in here u get education and work.


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http://www.arabnews.com/arab-spring-and-israeli-enemy

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