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Red face Mühlegg, Lazutina and Danilova disqualified !

There we have our 'true champions'.

Gold goes to Paruzzi and Ivanov.
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I just find this so hard to conceive - whyyy would these athletes do such a thing? *shaking head* Anyway, congrats to Paruzzi and Ivanov.

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I didn't want that happen. I've heard the news on TV, horrible...
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The whole cross-country-competition in SLC is now a complete joke !

Mühlegg won 3 gold, Danilova 1 gold, Lazutina 1 gold and 2 silver. Almost all races are doubtful now.
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Why wouldn't they strip them of all medals they earned these Olympics, that would be only fair if it is a regular doping case..

But medically, it is not only a question of doping. It is also a question of whether should competitions be held at such a high altitude? To compete on 1,800m you have to have a much higher blood cell count. I.e. when I am coming to highlands of that altitude, my count jumps nearly 10-20% within several days. But even living there my count will never match the average count of people who were born there. And other people don't have even that kind of ability to generate erythrocytes , and it has nothing to do with skiing or anything else, it differs from one body to another.

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ys, stop it. Doping is doping, no matter what. I'ts hard and I hate it as well, but one has to accept this.
Mühlegg will still have 2 gold and Larissa 2 silver, but they are worth zero.
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Phew...someone said something before I had to.

ys, it's terrible that this happened...but it's no excuse.

The altitude may have made it seem like more of an excuse...but it isn't. It just isn't fair.

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yes, all 3 should lose all her medals!


how could lazutina start after her relay disqualifying?

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matthias, I think this is another case, relying on tests during practice.

I heard that Mühlegg will still have his other gold medals, as the test was only thursday this week.
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You'll have to excuse me here, but I just find it so hard to believe an athlete of Larissa Lazutina's calibre would cheat. This is so, so horrible.

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I agree, Franziska. She has won everything (hopefully fair), that's not worth it. Whole career has a negative tone now.
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Lazutina is 37 years old. She annihilated the rest of the field in the 30K in the same manner as Johann Muehlegg did in the 50K.
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You actually never know if it was the athlete who was cheating, but the final responsibility will certainly be theirs. Note that this substance is not a one from the list of banned substances, and it is no secret that ALL athletes take performance-enhancing substances ( after all, all vitamins can be considered ones). And whether a substance is officially banned or not makes all the difference in the world. And then it will be up to team's doctors to make a final decision when they prepare cocktails for sportsmen. I am absolutely sure that no sportsman would ever have taken a risk of taking anything banned. Usually, it's a team's doctor's mistake.

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I'm not disputing these findings, but it's so hard to believe three of the highest-profile athletes are guilty of the same offence, and again, a sportswoman with the standing of Lazutina. Maybe I need to do some more research. Didn't something like this happen with the Finnish xc team last year?

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VivalaSeles,

take it easy.. There is nothing wrong about performance enhancing drugs . Recently, with all advances of biochemistry it is becoming really difficult to distinguish what should be banned and what shouldn't be. Normally, they ban performance enhancing drugs with negative, potentially harmful side effects. Keep in mind, that the drugs that are reason for DQing on these Olympics could be a reason for someone winning gold medal in previous ones , you never know. And at the end, as a rule, I repeat, it is a team's doctor's mistake and athletes are simply victims of that mistake too.

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