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‘Please don’t shoot me': Man Pleads for Life Moments Before Being Killed by Cop

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In Daniel Shaver’s final moments, he was heard pleading for his life — sobbing and saying to police officers, “Please don’t shoot me.”

Shortly afterward, Shaver was shot and killed by one of them, according to an investigation report from the Mesa Police Department.

In January, authorities said former officer Philip “Mitch” Brailsford fatally shot Shaver after responding to a call about a suspect with a gun. He has been charged with second-degree murder and fired from the force.

On Tuesday, according to the Arizona Republic, authorities released a report detailing witness testimony as well as audio and video footage from a body camera that suggests an unarmed and intoxicated Shaver was begging to be spared. The report also indicates Brailsford may have had cause for concern as Shaver made a move toward his waistband while approaching police.

Authorities said Brailsford then fired five shots.

Late at night on Jan. 18, an employee at a Mesa La Quinta Inn & Suites phoned police to report that someone had been pointing a rifle from a fifth-floor window.

“A couple of the guests have come to me,” the La Quinta Inn worker said, according to the Arizona Republic. “I’m an employee and they’ve come to me and they’ve told me that somebody is pointing a rifle outside of one of the windows in our building.”

A woman later told police that she and a colleague were in Mesa for a Dollar General training conference and that Shaver had invited them into his room for “shots,” according to the report.

She told police she saw a case in Shaver’s room that contained a gun and a dead sparrow.

“Shaver told her he was on a business trip with Walmart and his job is to kill all of the birds that get inside the buildings,” according to the report. However, Walmart said Shaver was not a Walmart employee.

Shaver’s wife, Laney Sweet, said on Facebook he would travel from their Texas home to Mesa a few times per month to service pest removal stores.

The woman told police that Shaver and her male colleague started messing with the rifle, pointing it out the window. Her colleague later left the room.

When the officers arrived, they called Shaver on the phone and asked them to exit the room.

The woman later told investigators that she heard police yell at Shaver because he was not “following protocol.” She then saw police shoot him and “saw him go down,” according to the report.

But moments before he was killed, the woman said, he was crying, saying: “Please don’t shoot.”

Body camera footage shows that during the confrontation with police, Shaver was on the ground with his hands extended above his head, according to the report. At one point, the report stated, he tried to raise his body.

“If you do that again, we are shooting you,” an officer said, according to the report. “Do you understand?”

Shaver responded: “No, please don’t shoot me.”

Authorities said no weapon was seen on Shaver, but it was unclear whether he had one.

An officer told Shaver to crawl toward them.

Sobbing, he said, “Yes, sir,” and started to move.

Once he reached the area where the woman’s purse was, the report stated, “his left hand moved across his body and around the purse in order to crawl past it. Shaver was audibly sobbing as he crawled.”

The report stated that Brailsford’s rifle was pointed down the hall until that point.

“Brailsford then swung his rifle back toward Shaver where Shaver could be seen with his braced left hand and his right hand moving back toward his waist with his elbow raised behind him,” according to the report. “Shaver’s head appeared to be down with his face looking at the carpet.”

The report stated that “multiple voices” began to say “don’t” as “Shaver’s hand moved back toward the front of his body.”

“Brailsford fired his first shot as Shaver’s hand was moving toward the front of his body and as at least one officer was heard saying ‘don’t,'” according to the report.

Authorities said Brailsford fired about five shots.

Shaver, 26, was pronounced dead at the scene.

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This was murder, clear and simple.

But yet, when police is criticized for actions like this one, their apologists lament such criticisms are making it difficult for the police to their job.
Is this how they are supposed to do their job?
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Was gun the only option here?
Have they even heard of taser?
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#whitelivesmatter. RIP.

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#whitelivesmatter.
Ugh. That to me is as creepy and pointless as #blacklivesmatter. I don't know but I'd guess that way back when it could have been styled the "black civil rights" movement.

If those people who started BLM had addressed the issues they did with #peoplematter it would have been much more powerful. But hey

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Ugh. That to me is as creepy and pointless as #blacklivesmatter. I don't know but I'd guess that way back when it could have been styled the "black civil rights" movement.

If those people who started BLM had addressed the issues they did with #peoplematter it would have been much more powerful. But hey
I think there is an #alllivesmatter movement.
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Ugh. That to me is as creepy and pointless as #blacklivesmatter. I don't know but I'd guess that way back when it could have been styled the "black civil rights" movement.

If those people who started BLM had addressed the issues they did with #peoplematter it would have been much more powerful. But hey
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I think there is an #alllivesmatter movement.
Yeah but from what I've read about it, it's insincere. A BS co-option by people who mostly wanted to oppose BLM. It would have rocked if it had been the approach taken by the people who initiated BLM

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Yeah but from what I've read about it, it's insincere. A BS co-option by people who mostly wanted to oppose BLM. It would have rocked if it had been the approach taken by the people who initiated BLM
You're right on this.
WLM was created to mock BLM. And that is what Sam L was doing right there.

He is usually backs the police when they kill a black person, saying they have a difficult job to do.
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Yeah but from what I've read about it, it's insincere. A BS co-option by people who mostly wanted to oppose BLM. It would have rocked if it had been the approach taken by the people who initiated BLM
It should have been all lives matter in the first place, though.

The point is that "black" people are people, too.

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This has been all over the news in Phoenix. More information in this article:

Texas man fatally shot by Mesa officer begged for life

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In the report, various witnesses interviewed described Shaver as extremely intoxicated before the shooting.

Officers arrived at Shaver's hotel room and found him there with the unidentified woman. Sweet said the male colleague had stepped outside to call his wife.

Shaver and the woman were ordered to leave the hotel room and were then told to get on their hands and knees into the hallway, the county attorney's office said. The woman crawled toward the officers and was apprehended without incident.

"Shaver was cooperative, but sometimes confused by the commands and because of his possible intoxication," according to a court document released earlier this month. "The sergeant told Shaver that if he put his hands behind his back then he would be shot."

Records indicate Shaver was shot by Brailsford as Shaver made a motion with his right hand toward his waistline, possibly to pull his shorts up as they were sagging, the report said. Shaver was declared dead at the scene.
Even more information about the cop. Pretty disturbing...

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Brailsford was fired by the Mesa Police Department on March 21 in connection with the fatal shooting. The department also cited an inappropriate etching on Brailsford's AR-15 patrol rifle as a violation of the department's service weapons policy.

Records released Tuesday offered more information on the etchings.

"You're F***ed" was etched onto Brailsford's weapon, an internal investigation report stated. In addition, an investigator found the words "molon labe" engraved on the outside dust cover. The Greek words, a classical expression of defiance, loosely translate to "come and take them."
The judge has also denied the release of the body-cam footage. If this cop gets off with a plea deal and minimal jail time....

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It should have been all lives matter in the first place, though.
That's pretty much what I stated.

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You're right on this.
WLM was created to mock BLM.
Yeah. But it still would have been great if the people stating BLM had gone with ALM. I think that sense of "we are taking a stand by calling to justice for all people" is what made the civil rights movement something all people are taught about.

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Yeah. But it still would have been great if the people stating BLM had gone with ALM. I think that sense of "we are taking a stand by calling to justice for all people" is what made the civil rights movement something all people are taught about.
It would have made you feel better, but it would been a lie.

The people who are being shot by police are black people.

While you are at it, perhaps you would felt better if NAACP (National Association for the Advancement of Colored People ) was known as NAAP even though its primary mission is to fight the advancement of black people because of generation of past discrimination.

However, the body of legislation the NAACP helped pass protect everybody, regardless of color, sexual orientation.
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It would have made you feel better, but it would been a lie.

The people who are being shot by police are black people.

You totally whiffed on this one.

It's not about "feel" it's about the long-term and overall impact of a slogan.

First and least importantly, it's not true to say the people who are shot are black. Some are - at a very disproportional rate. But it's far from all. Many are Hispanic, Native American and yes, if you missed it white.

Second, by claiming that ALM either you believe that only black lives matter or you're illustrating part of the problem with the moniker. By stating "all lives matter" one is doing activism for that. Obviously.

Third, and most importantly - when you think of the Civil Rights Movement do you think that it wasn't primarily by and about black people? Would it have been more powerful if it was called "Black Civil Rights"? I doubt it and no.

I'm not suggesting that the issues BLM deals with should have been different. I am stating that is far more powerfull when a group deals with those issues and frames it in a context of "we stand for what we want to see in the world - for all people." Framing it as another "my group" agenda was a missed opportunity.


That sortied, I'm not expecting you to agree but don't try and distort what I'm saying or the thinking behind it.
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