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More Moronic Stuff from the PCists - "Illegal Immigrant"

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2...-activists-say

‘Illegal immigrant’ phrase called neither ‘accurate nor neutral’ as activists turn up volume on call for candidates and media to stop using phrase

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That this nonsense can get any sort of traction is stunning. I'd guess even the most ignorant far-right bigot has no connotation to the phrase other than what it means - someone who's in the country illegally.

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I totally agree and have been saying this for years. Undocumented is so much more appropriate.

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I Undocumented is so much more appropriate.
How so? What if they have fake documents or what if they are officially documented as being in the country illegal.

What's next - changing the term felon? Entering illegally is a crime. Why PCists want to pretend otherwise is something I find puzzling.

And explain how the term is inaccurate?

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Why PCists want to pretend otherwise is something I find puzzling
this guy describes it best, notice how they all shut the fuck up and dispersed quickly

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PC going too far

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How so? What if they have fake documents or what if they are officially documented as being in the country illegal.

What's next - changing the term felon? Entering illegally is a crime. Why PCists want to pretend otherwise is something I find puzzling.

And explain how the term is inaccurate?
You do know that there are millions of immigrants who come in with the proper documents and overstay their visas right? Come down to southwest Florida and you will find many in the German and Russian communities. It is downright impossible to pass illegal immigration documents.

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I totally agree and have been saying this for years. Undocumented is so much more appropriate.
Why try to define something with a negative? It does not clarify anything.

And anyway, if someone is undocumented it just means they are in the US illegally, no?
Using euphemisms does nothing to change the status of the illegal/undocumented immigrant.

What do you think you would be called if you were in Mexico and undocumented? Probably, something like inmate #62967.
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So is a bank robber an "unauthorized withdrawal"

Take that PC bullshit somewhere else
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So is a bank robber an "unauthorized withdrawal"
a better comparison would be if bank robbing was called an unauthorized withdraw beginning in 16th century and went unpunished for a long time, then the children of the unauthorized withdrawers starting putting money in the bank themselves and got sick of other people doing unauthorized withdraws on their money so they said those people are now called bank robbers and started criminalising that act
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I was just lying in my bed reading this thread when all of a sudden I heard thousands of geese flying overhead on their migration path south... the sound was DEAFENING!!!! And I realized that at some point the right-whingers like Ted Cruz will probably start calling these geese "illegals" too...



I hope all my native american brothers and sisters will keep reminding the European-Americans that the land they stole does not entitle them to call other people "illegals"

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I was just lying in my bed reading this thread when all of a sudden I heard thousands of geese flying overhead on their migration path south... the sound was DEAFENING!!!! And I realized that at some point the right-whingers like Ted Cruz will probably start calling these geese "illegals" too...



I hope all my native american brothers and sisters will keep reminding the European-Americans that the land they stole does not entitle them to call other people "illegals"

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Those are snowbirds. They only visit the US and always return home when their visa expires.

What about that First Nations reservation in Quebec, where anyone that marries a non-First Nations person is kicked off the reservation? Is that the kind of policy you prefer?
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You do know that there are millions of immigrants who come in with the proper documents and overstay their visas right? It is downright impossible to pass illegal immigration documents.
Yes. And I wouldn't be averse to using another term for them - or not. However you're also making my point since they are documented.


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Y It is downright impossible to pass illegal immigration documents.
I don't know about the official ICE documents but I'd guess you're incorrect. People travel on fake passports so . . . ?

Either way other forms of faked documentation are often acquired.

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I was just lying in my bed reading this thread when all of a sudden I heard thousands of geese flying overhead on their migration path south... the sound was DEAFENING!!!! And I realized that at some point the right-whingers like Ted Cruz will probably start calling these geese "illegals" too...
A silly response but let's leave it alone. I'll instead ask if you think nations should not have any restrictions on how people enter their borders?

BTW trying to use occupation centuries ago as a barometer is even sillier than the geese tack. And since what we see as indigenous actually migrated here . . .

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