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Funny to see so many healthy players - players who were not able to help their countries - well shame on them IMHO. Another thing that can make me see red is the way some players fake injuries on court - like Kuznetsova and Vika just to mention the worst - they are stretching the rules beyond their limits - like e.g. Stosur did yesterday - why are they not punished? To me it seems like the rate of faking is rising.
Players really do get injured, so they have to allow matches to stop for player safety.
You've seen Caroline, at a YEC, in a Copenhagen final, go down to the ground.
This is a physical sport. Fans cant assume they know who's healthy and who is injured.
Players have to schedule carefully. I've seen players try to make every Fed Cup tie, they play a lot of extra long tough matches, than players who choose to play Fed Cup when their schedules are open

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Players really do get injured, so they have to allow matches to stop for player safety.
You've seen Caroline, at a YEC, in a Copenhagen final, go down to the ground.
This is a physical sport. Fans cant assume they know who's healthy and who is injured.
Players have to schedule carefully. I've seen players try to make every Fed Cup tie, they play a lot of extra long tough matches, than players who choose to play Fed Cup when their schedules are open
And of course you are right in one way - I'm only mentioning the examples which IMHO did look fake. Another thing to me it's an honour to play for one's country and that's why I'm a bit sour at the players mentioned that they are not giving back when they should IMHO. It could be fairly easy to avoid fake injuries by saying they can't take part in the upcoming week's tournament. I think you'll see a drastic fall in injuries IMHO. I also think that Caro should help Denmark in May even if it's in the rock bottom of the FED cup IMHO.
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What tournaments in May is Rory playing? That probably determines Caroline's schedule between her tennis tournaments.
If someone told me in July 2011 (when Caroline was holding 9 titles & #1 by 3000 points), that in August 2012 Caroline would play her full schedule and be holding no titles, be out of the YEC race, I would not have believed it.
So I look forward to seeing what she does from here on

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Funny to see so many healthy players - players who were not able to help their countries - well shame on them IMHO. Another thing that can make me see red is the way some players fake injuries on court - like Kuznetsova and Vika just to mention the worst - they are stretching the rules beyond their limits - like e.g. Stosur did yesterday - why are they not punished? To me it seems like the rate of faking is rising.
It is a shame, really. I think that the officials are instructed to give certain names a pass nowadays. In the past players would be stopped if they tried to pull a stunt like Vika or Kuznetsova, the umpires would not let them get away with it. It's time for the rules to be better enforced otherwise the tour will end up looking ridiculous. I mean, even on TF people complained about what went on at Australian Open.
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What tournaments in May is Rory playing? That probably determines Caroline's schedule between her tennis tournaments.
If someone told me in July 2011 (when Caroline was holding 9 titles & #1 by 3000 points), that in August 2012 Caroline would play her full schedule and be holding no titles, be out of the YEC race, I would not have believed it.
So I look forward to seeing what she does from here on

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I noticed the voting for Caro's R1 match in TF was 22 even, so I hurried to my trusted betting platform to throw some money at Caro near even odds. Hmmmm. 1.05 not exactly even.

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Caroline will re-enter top 10 this week if Marion does not reach SF Assuming Caroline only reaches 3rd round of course, if she gets to QF then Bartoli needs to reach the final.
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Caroline will re-enter top 10 this week if Marion does not reach SF Assuming Caroline only reaches 3rd round of course, if she gets to QF then Bartoli needs to reach the final.
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To the two posters above: This week's rankings are already out,and they show Caroline at #10 right now...yet perhaps she'll have to reach a certain round to RETAIN that spot

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It is a shame, really. I think that the officials are instructed to give certain names a pass nowadays. In the past players would be stopped if they tried to pull a stunt like Vika or Kuznetsova, the umpires would not let them get away with it. It's time for the rules to be better enforced otherwise the tour will end up looking ridiculous. I mean, even on TF people complained about what went on at Australian Open.
I agree, and I don't even blame the players themselves. It's professional sports with huge sums of money and worldwide fame at stake, so players are tempted to use anything that they think might give them an edge and they are likely to bend the rules to their advantage if they can get away with it. But the powers that be in the game should be more strict. There's really no point in having a set of rules when in reality everyone can do whatever they want. I don't mean that they should be dictatorial. Giving for example someone a warning because they take two seconds too long between serves is a bit petty. But consistently taking forty instead of twenty seconds is of a different order. Same for the injury time-outs and toilet breaks. Tennis is the only sport I know where you can actually HAVE such a thing as an injury time-out. That's not necessarily a bad thing, but once a player goes beyond a certain limit the umpire should should say, "sorry, but if you need that much time you're simply not fit to play. Match goes to your opponent."
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Easy first round in Doha...then Cirstea....GO Caro!!!!!!!
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Tough draw for Caro but oh well. Based on the draw she should make it to the 3rd round against Kerber.

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I agree, and I don't even blame the players themselves. It's professional sports with huge sums of money and worldwide fame at stake, so players are tempted to use anything that they think might give them an edge and they are likely to bend the rules to their advantage if they can get away with it. But the powers that be in the game should be more strict. There's really no point in having a set of rules when in reality everyone can do whatever they want. I don't mean that they should be dictatorial. Giving for example someone a warning because they take two seconds too long between serves is a bit petty. But consistently taking forty instead of twenty seconds is of a different order. Same for the injury time-outs and toilet breaks. Tennis is the only sport I know where you can actually HAVE such a thing as an injury time-out. That's not necessarily a bad thing, but once a player goes beyond a certain limit the umpire should should say, "sorry, but if you need that much time you're simply not fit to play. Match goes to your opponent."
You are correct that the WTA is largely responsible for the problem,but that doesn't completely absolve the players of blame,either.To give you an analogous situation,would you be content if I robbed you at gunpoint on your next visit to our beaches...with the justification,'Oh,I can't blame him for robbing me b/c the police are so corrupt and set such a bad example.'---that was a rhetorical question,because you'd be one HELLUVa guy if you were that benevolent towards those who took advantage of you

I don't mind if other posters want to shoot this down,but I can't recall ONE occasion when Elena D. did the stuff that you're referring to...if she DID,then it was truly once in a blue moon.I can't recall Caro's doing it,either.There are plenty of inbred haters who'd invent scenarios from their imaginations,yet I haven't heard any neutral parties,or even too many haters,accusing her of that.Even when weakness encourages manipulation,we still have our consciences as a guide,and some use it FAR more than others.

Caro's Adidas teammate,for example,will concoct retroactive injuries two weeks after the fact to excuse an ass-whupping,even when the whole world heard her admit that she felt fine in her post-match pressers.She'll also invent B.S. injuries whenever she feels like slutting around again on the weekend with her current sexual partner for that month.The latest masterpiece is a shoulder injury that mysteriously manifested itself several days AFTER an AO loss...yet DIDN'T prevent her from playing an MM and getting her ass kicked by a journeywoman...suddenly flared up again and gave her an alibi to abandon her FC teammates...and then magically healed 2 days later for Doha.That's almost the height of arrogance...and the WTA is a HUGE facilitator of such behavior with their constant pampering of her.

To summarize,I partially agree with you,but players should still be held accountable for their actions.That's one big reason why I'm a Caro fan;she never makes me ashamed to support her,even when she slumps,b/c of who she is AS A PERSON.....Oh,and congrats to Caroline for rendering a Lucky Loser unlucky again

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I noticed the voting for Caro's R1 match in TF was 22 even, so I hurried to my trusted betting platform to throw some money at Caro near even odds. Hmmmm. 1.05 not exactly even.
I wonder what the voting in GM woud have been if they were required to actually put up a sum of money that would hurt them if they lost. Would they be so confident? And its funny that they will argue on end that they are the best judges and the true experts at predictions and that the bookies are fools. Very easy to talk. But the people who set the odds are there to make money as their living and they lose money if they get it wrong.

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Does anyone know what Cirstea's form is like?

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