Danish Delight - Caroline Wozniacki thread - vol 4 - Page 335 - TennisForum.com
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #5011 of 5027 (permalink) Old Feb 1st, 2012, 03:00 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: LV-426
Posts: 35,723
                     
Re: Danish Delight - Caroline Wozniacki thread - vol 4

Woah. This is a pretty big surprise. I thought there some good signs of progress at the Australian Open.

I think this is too soon to end the coaching relationship. It's only been about 2 months. What did she expect?

I'd like to see Piotr out of the coaching process. I suspect that if he continues to be involved that any future coaches will experience similar problems.
Protoss is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #5012 of 5027 (permalink) Old Feb 1st, 2012, 03:17 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: LV-426
Posts: 35,723
                     
Re: Danish Delight - Caroline Wozniacki thread - vol 4

Quote:
Originally Posted by goldenlox View Post
Lots going on, now she's a landlord at $210,000 per year

@DarrenRovell
Tennis player Caroline Wozniacki, who made a horrible $9M purchase of 2 apts in NYC, is renting one for $17,500/month.
Hmmm. Caro may be not as financial set for life after tennis as I thought. Buying real estate is a pretty questionable investment for the forseeable future. Did she consult with a financial plannner before this purchase?

I don't understand why Caro is renting an apartment in New York City. She spends very little time there during the year.
Protoss is offline  
post #5013 of 5027 (permalink) Old Feb 1st, 2012, 03:22 AM
Back in April 2017
 
Jimmie48's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 26,511
                     
Re: Danish Delight - Caroline Wozniacki thread - vol 4

Quote:
Originally Posted by Burisleif View Post
According to whom? I haven't seen anything but hearsay on the matter... The decision to not clinch the deal could be for any number of reasons nothing to do with tennis? Until we know what the real deal is I don't see any validation for rants about doom and defermation. It could easily appear like another one of your Rory smells episodes? Keep it civil, factual, and rational please...
Seriously, I hate the way you always try to numb down discussions you do not like and you try to silence them by claiming that it isn't factional or rational enough. According to the Ekstrabladet article, Sanchez cited the too-close coaching relationship between Caro and Piotr as one of the reasons he couldn't become part of the team enough. Is that not fact enough?

Some things are simply obvious and one of these things is that Piotr will do anything to retain control over her and it's obviously hurting her. You're probably also believe that her failed attempt to split from him was a "misunderstanding" because there's nothing factual to suggest otherwise, right? Sometimes you just have to open your eyes, it's pretty obvious what's going on here. There are simply too many things happening that suggest the same thing to brush it off as coincidence but keep burying your head in the sand.. I'm sure that will help.

I told you that in the Rory discussions before, my opinions are as valid as yours so please get off your high horse, you`re not the one to judge which discussions in here have merit or not.
Jimmie48 is offline  
post #5014 of 5027 (permalink) Old Feb 1st, 2012, 03:23 AM
Back in April 2017
 
Jimmie48's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 26,511
                     
Re: Danish Delight - Caroline Wozniacki thread - vol 4

Quote:
Originally Posted by Protoss View Post
Hmmm. Caro may be not as financial set for life after tennis as I thought. Buying real estate is a pretty questionable investment for the forseeable future. Did she consult with a financial plannner before this purchase?
Why do I have the feeling that other people are making these decisions for her....?
Jimmie48 is offline  
post #5015 of 5027 (permalink) Old Feb 1st, 2012, 03:32 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 8,219
                     
Re: Danish Delight - Caroline Wozniacki thread - vol 4

Quote:
Originally Posted by Protoss View Post
Hmmm. Caro may be not as financial set for life after tennis as I thought. Buying real estate is a pretty questionable investment for the forseeable future. Did she consult with a financial plannner before this purchase?

I don't understand why Caro is renting an apartment in New York City. She spends very little time there during the year.
In short we don't know. The last mention we had before the USO when this broke was a denial, and that she had not purchased them but leased them for 3 months...

You might remember the story... iirc Two apartments in 15 Union Square South West, aka the old Tiffanies Shop? Either way, if she did buy two at 9m, two similar ones just sold for 17m.

On a side note, isn't this kind of stuff what the irony thread was supposed to be for keeping track of for those that care about such stuff rather than tennis?

"In time we hate that which we often fear." WS
“Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something.” Plato
Burisleif is offline  
post #5016 of 5027 (permalink) Old Feb 1st, 2012, 03:41 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 8,219
                     
Re: Danish Delight - Caroline Wozniacki thread - vol 4

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmie48 View Post
Seriously, I hate the way you always try to numb down discussions you do not like and you try to silence them by claiming that it isn't factional or rational enough. According to the Ekstrabladet article, Sanchez cited the too-close coaching relationship between Caro and Piotr as one of the reasons he couldn't become part of the team enough. Is that not fact enough?

Some things are simply obvious and one of these things is that Piotr will do anything to retain control over her and it's obviously hurting her. You're probably also believe that her failed attempt to split from him was a "misunderstanding" because there's nothing factual to suggest otherwise, right? Sometimes you just have to open your eyes, it's pretty obvious what's going on here. There are simply too many things happening that suggest the same thing to brush it off as coincidence but keep burying your head in the sand.. I'm sure that will help.

I told you that in the Rory discussions before, my opinions are as valid as yours so please get off your high horse, you`re not the one to judge which discussions in here have merit or not.
Extra Bladet. Jump to GM and mouth off, Jump to conclusions, hurl wild accusations, insult fellow section members, and pretend that insulting her through her choice of partner is your right because you say so. OK... I get it.



Like fuck.

"In time we hate that which we often fear." WS
“Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something.” Plato
Burisleif is offline  
post #5017 of 5027 (permalink) Old Feb 1st, 2012, 03:50 AM
Back in April 2017
 
Jimmie48's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 26,511
                     
Re: Danish Delight - Caroline Wozniacki thread - vol 4

It's not my problem you`re unable to deal with reality, keep on pretending that everything is alright when it obviously isn't.

Neither am I insulting you and certainly not her. I'm actually worried and I feel sorry for her because she seems to be trapped in a very complicated situation. But like I said, ignoring the obvious is not going to help.

Just look at other top players and recent slam winners and you'll see that all of them have proper coaches and none of them are controlled by overbearing family members. I wonder why that is... must be another one of those coincidences...
Jimmie48 is offline  
post #5018 of 5027 (permalink) Old Feb 1st, 2012, 04:07 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 8,219
                     
Re: Danish Delight - Caroline Wozniacki thread - vol 4

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmie48 View Post
It's not my problem you`re unable to deal with reality, keep on pretending that everything is alright when it obviously isn't.

Neither am I insulting you and certainly not her. I'm actually worried and I feel sorry for her because she seems to be trapped in a very complicated situation. But like I said, ignoring the obvious is not going to help.

Just look at other top players and recent slam winners and you'll see that all of them have proper coaches and none of them are controlled by overbearing family members. I wonder why that is... must be another one of those coincidences...
I'm completely cool with reality, however, I'm not buying into the idea that everything in your head is reality. Mouthing off in every direction at every tabloid snippet however plausible it may or may not be is not 'reality'.

If you want to question my opinion then you could at least read it with at least a degree of the same effort you appear to do with the tabloid rags, because you obviously don't know what my opinion is, nor am I likely ever to be so damned arrogant as to post it without the full facts to base it on.

My only interest is to cut through the subjective bullshit being hurled about GM style and know what the real deal is. I'm as open to facts and reality as any other reasonable and rational poster here.

"In time we hate that which we often fear." WS
“Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something.” Plato
Burisleif is offline  
post #5019 of 5027 (permalink) Old Feb 1st, 2012, 04:16 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 13,877
                     
Re: Danish Delight - Caroline Wozniacki thread - vol 4

Quote:
Originally Posted by Burisleif View Post
On a side note, isn't this kind of stuff what the irony thread was supposed to be for keeping track of for those that care about such stuff rather than tennis?
That depends;if it's just loose speculation on what Caroline does with her money,then yeah...Off Topic would be better.However,if it's sincere concern that she's facing financial troubles,then THAT would pertain to her overall welfare and belong right here

WTA suffering from Dementieva withdrawal, a lack of true queens

Congrats on Number Three, Kim! We need more of you in this world

Monica Puig, Guapa Teniista Numero Uno de las chicas latinas
bruce goose is offline  
post #5020 of 5027 (permalink) Old Feb 1st, 2012, 04:22 AM
Back in April 2017
 
Jimmie48's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 26,511
                     
Re: Danish Delight - Caroline Wozniacki thread - vol 4

Quote:
Originally Posted by Burisleif View Post
I'm completely cool with reality, however, I'm not buying into the idea that everything in your head is reality. Mouthing off in every direction at every tabloid snippet however plausible it may or may not be is not 'reality'.

If you want to question my opinion then you could at least read it with at least a degree of the same effort you appear to do with the tabloid rags, because you obviously don't know what my opinion is, nor am I likely ever to be so damned arrogant as to post it without the full facts to base it on.

My only interest is to cut through the subjective bullshit being hurled about GM style and know what the real deal is. I'm as open to facts and reality as any other reasonable and rational poster here.
I wouldn't know what your opinion on this is because you don't bother sharing it, all you did was talk down on me - In fact you still do.

And please don't get all worked up about that one tabloid quote, it's one of the many puzzle pieces over the past year that fit the picture perfectly. Sometimes even the tabloids can be right...
Jimmie48 is offline  
post #5021 of 5027 (permalink) Old Feb 1st, 2012, 04:23 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 8,219
                     
Re: Danish Delight - Caroline Wozniacki thread - vol 4

Quote:
Originally Posted by bruce goose View Post
That depends;if it's just loose speculation on what Caroline does with her money,then yeah...Off Topic would be better.However,if it's sincere concern that she's facing financial troubles,then THAT would pertain to her overall welfare and belong right here
It's fine by me, irony is crowed, so I was thinking off-court thread, but no.

They are very cool looking lofts it has to be said...

"In time we hate that which we often fear." WS
“Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something.” Plato
Burisleif is offline  
post #5022 of 5027 (permalink) Old Feb 1st, 2012, 04:29 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 8,219
                     
Re: Danish Delight - Caroline Wozniacki thread - vol 4

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmie48 View Post
I wouldn't know what your opinion on this is because you don't bother sharing it, all you did was talk down on me - In fact you still do.

And please don't get all worked up about that one tabloid quote, it's one of the many puzzle pieces over the past year that fit the picture perfectly. Sometimes even the tabloids can be right...
I mentioned my coaching preference a few posts back. Lacking facts it tended toward transition rather than revolution.

If you have tangible pieces then put them together in a rational post for civil discussion by all means.

I'm not attempting to talk down to you... I would however, also like to hear other opinions too, and in my opinion the people who understand coaching relationships best are not likely to post in the middle of a flame war... You were jumping on posters... calm and civil is all I ask ok

"In time we hate that which we often fear." WS
“Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something.” Plato
Burisleif is offline  
post #5023 of 5027 (permalink) Old Feb 1st, 2012, 04:37 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 13,877
                     
Re: Danish Delight - Caroline Wozniacki thread - vol 4

As long as we can end Caro's Volume 4 thread better than her last coaching relationship ended,we'll have gained a small victory

WTA suffering from Dementieva withdrawal, a lack of true queens

Congrats on Number Three, Kim! We need more of you in this world

Monica Puig, Guapa Teniista Numero Uno de las chicas latinas
bruce goose is offline  
post #5024 of 5027 (permalink) Old Feb 1st, 2012, 04:46 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 8,219
                     
Re: Danish Delight - Caroline Wozniacki thread - vol 4

Quote:
Originally Posted by bruce goose View Post
As long as we can end Caro's Volume 4 thread better than her last coaching relationship ended,we'll have gained a small victory
You might want to PM CW to start v5 before Admin does it sans opening smile photo etc...

I would send the PM but I have to rush to my pillow.

"In time we hate that which we often fear." WS
“Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something.” Plato
Burisleif is offline  
post #5025 of 5027 (permalink) Old Feb 1st, 2012, 05:16 AM
Senior Member
 
goldenlox's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: cyberspace
Posts: 97,976
                     
Re: Danish Delight - Caroline Wozniacki thread - vol 4

Quote:
Originally Posted by Protoss View Post
Hmmm. Caro may be not as financial set for life after tennis as I thought. Buying real estate is a pretty questionable investment for the forseeable future. Did she consult with a financial plannner before this purchase?

I don't understand why Caro is renting an apartment in New York City. She spends very little time there during the year.
I tried to check this. There was a Wall Street Journal article that said she bought the 2 apts & rented 1.
So thats why Rovell treated it as fact. But one of the writers from Denmark said Caroline denied it.
So we'll never know if its true or not.

As far her dad controlling things, she has a certain skill set and she cant just change it like some commentators think is easy.

Coaching is overrated. She can listen to 100 different opinions on how to practice and how to play, but in the end she has to go out there alone, focus and make the shots

The most wasted of all days is one without laughter....
Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there
Enjoy This Moment!!
HEALTH and HAPPINESS to EVERYONE

goldenlox is offline  
Closed Thread

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the TennisForum.com forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome