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Why are there many fans of both Ana and Agnieszka?

It has been observed recently in Radwańska's subforum that there is much coercion between fans of Ana and fans of Agnieszka. I haven't checked how accurate are these findings -- I accept them at their face value.

I pondered about the possible reasons and I admit they are not clear to me.

The two girls, at least to me, don't seem to have much in common. Their game is very different, they look very different and, finally, they even act differently.

So I am curious.

Several active supporters of Ana are more or less constant presence at this subforum. Several more have been in the past demonstrating their support for Agnieszka against her opponents.

Would you be so kind and share whatever insights you may have into why you support both Ana and Agnieszka?

I hope this thread may deepen existing bonds between supporters of the two girls.

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Re: Why are there many fans of both Ana and Agnieszka?

it's a random thing, not all Aga fans like Ivanović
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I think it's just a coincidence

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Re: Why are there many fans of both Ana and Agnieszka?

Well, I don't know exactly why and surely I can only speak on my behalf anyway..
The thing is I came here being an Ana fan but I was warming to Aga for quite some time but didn't realize it until recently.
There are two main reasons why I like her. First, it's her game which I find to be extremely intelligent. You can see how she constructs the point in her head and that she's thinking few steps ahead in the process. I guess in a way she has to as she's not some big, strong gal who can overpower her opponent yet she manages to do just that in some way.
I loooove her dropshots. They are piece of art. She makes tennis look elegant..you cannot say that for many players. She is unique and a tough cookie. She plays the game as if it were a chess game.
The other thing I like about her is that she keeps a cool head and doesn't show any emotion. It just falls nicely into a whole "story about Aga".
I like her. I just do.

Ana is completely different type of player. We all know that but I enjoy her game just as much. I love her power and those feisty forhands of hers.

The bottom line, I appreciate them as they are. Don't want them to change cuz I see them as complete players and individuals no matter how different they are.

To me Ana and Aga combo makes perfect sense.
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Re: Why are there many fans of both Ana and Agnieszka?

The answer is simple: they both rock. Period.

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Re: Why are there many fans of both Ana and Agnieszka?

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Well, I don't know exactly why and surely I can only speak on my behalf anyway..
The thing is I came here being an Ana fan but I was warming to Aga for quite some time but didn't realize it until recently.
There are two main reasons why I like her. First, it's her game which I find to be extremely intelligent. You can see how she constructs the point in her head and that she's thinking few steps ahead in the process. I guess in a way she has to as she's not some big, strong gal who can overpower her opponent yet she manages to do just that in some way.
I loooove her dropshots. They are piece of art. She makes tennis look elegant..you cannot say that for many players. She is unique and a tough cookie. She plays the game as if it were a chess game.
The other thing I like about her is that she keeps a cool head and doesn't show any emotion. It just falls nicely into a whole "story about Aga".
I like her. I just do.

Ana is completely different type of player. We all know that but I enjoy her game just as much. I love her power and those feisty forhands of hers.

The bottom line, I appreciate them as they are. Don't want them to change cuz I see them as complete players and individuals no matter how different they are.

To me Ana and Aga combo makes perfect sense.
A very eloquent response. Cocco articulated remarkably well what I could have said in response to the question why I like Agnieszka so much (I didn't know who she actually was before watching her against Sharapova at the U.S. Open). Hardly I could have said that better.

Cocco seems to like both Ana and Aga because they are mutually complementary. This hasn't dawned on me before but seems to be a perfect reason and a perfect answer.

So, now somebody else's turn. Perhaps Dexter? Dexter says he lives and studies in Kraków, so his support for the Radwański sisters is self-explanatory. But his first "love" was and remains Ana, at least this is my impression. Can you tell us, Dexter, anything about it?
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Re: Why are there many fans of both Ana and Agnieszka?

Ah, it seems Dexter was reading my mind while I was composing my post.

His answer is very succinct.
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It just clicks you either like people or you don't and I don't see what having different game styles and personas have to do with anything. It's like friends there are some you can go to the football and joke around with and others you can talk about politics and world events to. I don't put one group of friends above the other I like them both for who they are

Side note: There are two Jankovic fans here who are Ana haters (You know who I'm talking about) but even more shocking than that is there's a Pova fan who likes Aga
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Re: Why are there many fans of both Ana and Agnieszka?

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It just clicks you either like people or you don't and I don't see what having different game styles and personas have to do with anything. It's like friends there are some you can go to the football and joke around with and others you can talk about politics and world events to. I don't put one group of friends above the other I like them both for who they are
Thanks for your entry, BDS321. So, the answer of BDS321 is: it's purely irrational.

I don't see immediately a parallel with making friends though. After all, for nearly all of us the only contact we make with top professional tennis players is by watching them play, and most of the time on a TV or computer screen. So, for me for example, whom do I support is very much predetermined by their behavior on and off court.

You make friends in real life, on the other hand, through a direct personal contact, and I stress the word direct.

Maybe by repeatedly meeting and spending time with somebody, or by forging spiritual bonds by writing to each other for a long period of time.

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Side note: There are two Jankovic fans here who are Ana haters (You know who I'm talking about) but even more shocking than that is there's a Pova fan who likes Aga
Strong rivalry brings tension unfortunately. I suppose if the two Serbian girls were showing a lot of affection to each other their fans would do the same and basically form the same camp.

Regarding Sharapova. I may surprise you, BDS321, but when Sharapova made her meteoric entry in 2004, I became her instant fan. And despite feeling warm to a number of other players like Anastasia Myskina, Kim Clijsters, and more recently, Justine Hénin, I still was essentially her fan until the last U.S. Open when I saw Agnieszka playing against her.

I have to say that the two CBS commentators who were covering that match were very gracious, and were saying great things about Agnieszka throughout the whole match. Their nice comments certainly predisposed me well towards her.

Since then I began following her career, and after the Australian Open I realized I really liked her game.

Returning to Sharapova: I admire her many undeniable, in my opinion, qualities. What puts me off though is her incessant shrieking noises on the court (it really does), her fist pumping, and her rather one-dimensional very aggressive game whose only purpose is to win the match.

I freely admit, I am rather going to support a player whose game possesses elegance, cunning, and variety of shots, whether she wins or loses, over a player who nearly always wins but whose game is, sorry to say that, ugly.

And, not to forget Maria's supporters at various tennis forums... For some reason the ones I was exposed to were gloating fanatics, and I am talking about my experience from other fora as well, not just TennisForum. I know that this is not Sharapova's fault as well as that not all Sharapova's fans are alike. Still...

So, I loved to support Sharapova in the days when she was an underdog, but today my sympathy is firmly with Agnieszka.

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Re: Why are there many fans of both Ana and Agnieszka?

Over all I think it's a coincidence.
It is notable fact ecuase we're not a big fanbase (But a great one though ), there are quite a few here who like Ana as well, but over all I think it doesn't have a certain reason, every fan has his own taste, the players he likes from his reasons and it's just came out this way.

I personally love Aga's game, the talent, the veraity, the all around play, she can basiclly play from anywhere in the court, diffence, attack, has good volley.. Her game is very joyable to watch.
Plus I like her spirit n court, always looks calm, and never stops fighting, no matter whats the result and whose the opponent.
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I think that is me Simple words I love Aga's game, her sweet personnality and just who she is as a player and a person!

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Well, I don't know exactly why and surely I can only speak on my behalf anyway..
The thing is I came here being an Ana fan but I was warming to Aga for quite some time but didn't realize it until recently.
There are two main reasons why I like her. First, it's her game which I find to be extremely intelligent. You can see how she constructs the point in her head and that she's thinking few steps ahead in the process. I guess in a way she has to as she's not some big, strong gal who can overpower her opponent yet she manages to do just that in some way.
I loooove her dropshots. They are piece of art. She makes tennis look elegant..you cannot say that for many players. She is unique and a tough cookie. She plays the game as if it were a chess game.
The other thing I like about her is that she keeps a cool head and doesn't show any emotion. It just falls nicely into a whole "story about Aga".
I like her. I just do.

Ana is completely different type of player. We all know that but I enjoy her game just as much. I love her power and those feisty forhands of hers.

The bottom line, I appreciate them as they are. Don't want them to change cuz I see them as complete players and individuals no matter how different they are.

To me Ana and Aga combo makes perfect sense.
that's like a poetry for me, it's a great pleasure to read such comments by you or others
from all Aga's things I love, the most important for me is the improvement she made since I saw her first time (Wimbledon 2005), this makes me sure she can be a champion in the future, maybe even near future
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Side note: There are two Jankovic fans here who are Ana haters (You know who I'm talking about) but even more shocking than that is there's a Pova fan who likes Aga
yeah,that's quite unusual
but it only proves again it's a random thing with the cheering, for me it doesn't matter who cheers for who and who dislikes who, we're here to admire Aga
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So, now somebody else's turn. Perhaps Dexter? Dexter says he lives and studies in Kraków, so his support for the Radwański sisters is self-explanatory. But his first "love" was and remains Ana, at least this is my impression. Can you tell us, Dexter, anything about it?
My first love was actually Justine. She's the one thanks to who I discovered tennis and started to follow it with such passion. Everything changed when I saw a particular 16 yo in Zurich 2004. She became my #1 and main object of focus on WTA and it will never change. For next years my only actual faves were them... Ana & Justine. I got to know Aga during her breakthrough tournament in Warsaw 2006. Her match against Myskina, which I was watching in person remains the best tennis-match I've ever watched in person. But I have to admit I was cheering more for Aga, because she's Polish and even though I don't share the opinion that you're almost obliged to cheer for your fellow compatriot, I do support most of Poles. Aga always was my favourite player (even though I still see more potential in Ulka). Warsaw also was a place when I had the pleasure to talk to both Aga & Ana. To Aga just briefly, but she was extremely nice and tactful. Ana is adorable too, the nicest player I've met (without any bias believe it or not). People claiming she's a bitch, make me laugh out loud. She's just a fierce competitor who wants to win as much as it gets. The accusations of cheating make me laugh as well... People do not see she's the one to concede points in matches when there's a close call and she knows the call is incorrect, applauds opponent's good shots (as it was the case yesterday ), but people will see what they want to see. And be my guests guys.
The games of Ana & Aga couldn't be more different comparing to each other. And whilst I prefer the big babe style of tennis, watching Aga is extremely refreshing and you appreciate it even more when you notice how few of them are able to play more with brain than power. Aga's body isn't as suited to this game as other's girls, but I feel she can do it the way Justine did. They both have/had to overcome some adversities, but I'm optimistic about Aga's future. What is great to see, is that each time I watch Aga I see new improvements. She's getting stronger, she's getting fitter and the future is bright for her.
I have to say Aga is nowhere near close to Ana's status to me. I don't think I will ever have the same passion for Aga as I have for Ana. Following Ana's career from being outside of top100 to the top of the rankings makes me feel almost like a proud father. Justine was the 2nd person I was able to call myself a fan of, but it was more in appreciative way. I didn't have the same passion either, but she's been always my hero and it will stay this way. The day she retired will remain the darkest day of tennis since I started to follow it more than 5 years ago. Apart from Ana & Justine, I like/d many player, but wasn't fave of them. Like I said I cheered Aga from the beginning more because she's my compatriot. With Justine's departure I feel like Aga is taking her place.

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