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I'm a Eugenie fan but I hope she loses this case and gets a big bill from her lawyer. Some floors are slippery, live and learn. Be more careful. Don't blame others for your mistakes.
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If they are seeking treatment then the person giving the treatment is the authorized personnel. What use would a physiotherapy room be without physiotherapists present?

A physiotherapy room is a medical facility. I can't see any tournament giving players access such a facility when there are not qualified staff in attendance.



You're no doubt right in saying that the room should have been attended. It's poor service that it wasn't. But, on finding it unattended, Bouchard should have asked someone for assistance.

If I'm staying in a hotel and find the restaurant unattended then I go to the reception desk and ask for service. I don't stroll into the kitchen and make myself an omelette.
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In her first public comments since the US Open, Canadian tennis star Eugenie Bouchard won't commit to January's Australian Open
By Stephanie Myles
19 November, 2015 11:39 AM
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Asked about whether she was looking forward to January's Australian Open, the first major of the 2016 season and her best tournament effort of the 2015 season, Bouchard was vague.

"I don’t know yet. I don’t want to make any comments or commitments in terms of that. Just doing my best to try to get healthy, and yeah, just want to stay positive," she said.

It was thin soup, indeed. Clearly the ground rules about the media opportunity – little more than a breezy, live, breakfast-show hit with dozens of Nike-clad early-morning exercisers in the background – were laid out in advance. There were no questions about what took place in that locker room, or anything after that including Bouchard's aborted attempt at a return to play in China. That's fairly understandable.

That much was clear when Bouchard called the interviewer out on her off-camera pledge that she wouldn't bring up Bieber's name, smiling through gritted teeth.

(...)

In a TSN interview earlier this week, Bouchard lawyer Benedict Morelli said Bouchard had been feeling concussion symptoms as recently as 2 1/2 weeks ago and had to repeat the concussion protocol before being cleared to resume practicing, which he said she had returned to Florida to start doing. He added that he "didn't know if she had gotten over the symptoms."

"I've spoken to Genie (on the telephone). Genie is going to try to her best to be able to come back. She really has a very big problem with this concussion and this traumatic brain injury. We are hopeful this will not be a permanent situation. She is starting to practice as we speak, and trying to get back into shape to be able to play," Morelli told TSN. "We believe that ultimately she’s going to be okay. But her ranking is dropping precipitously. Most people don’t realize that if you don’t play, you lose so much, not only in your ability to win, but in your ranking."

Morelli told ESPN.com that the Bouchard told him the USTA was "being really aggressive" with her. "She wasn't really angry about this. She was just upset," he said, adding that none of Bouchard's big sponsors have yet indicated they had any issues. "But that’s another problem, potentially," he said.


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Morelli reiterated his stance that despite Bouchard's struggles in 2015, the 21-year-old had a legitimate shot at the US Open and the accident cost her a legitimate opportunity.

"My argument is, this is a young woman, at 21 years old, has already reached the semi-finals in two majors, the finals at Wimbledon, and was once ranked five in the world. The woman who won the US Open (Flavia Pennetta), was 32, never won a major and as soon as she won, she retired. And Serena didn’t win, obviously," he said. "Genie was already in the round of 16. She was playing really, really well, and anyone who knows tennis knows the round of 16, not that bad. Not bad at all."

(...)

Bouchard's early 2016 schedule remains unconfirmed.

She reportedly was not interested in returning to Perth, Australia the first week of January to take part in the Hopman Cup, a mixed exhibition event she played in 2014 with Milos Raonic and this year with Vasek Pospisil. It would have been a perfect, no-pressure way to easy back into competition after what will essentially be four months away.

Rather, reports this week were that Bouchard is already entered in the WTA tournament in Shenzen, China, which takes place the same week and is arguably the most low-profile of the tournaments on the schedule that week. (The others are in Brisbane, Australia - a Premier event with a tougher field and more prize money - and Auckland, New Zealand, which is a lot closer to the site of the Australian Open in Melbourne).

As for the week before the Australian Open, which begins Jan. 18, Bouchard's currently-fallen ranking is likely to keep her out of another Premier event in Sydney, one she has played twice before. It's a 32-player draw and the average ranking cutoff over the last six editions has been No. 31 – a long way from Bouchard's currently WTA Tour ranking of No. 48.

She would need a wild card to avoid the relative ignominy of qualifying, and the tournament generally awards its available free passes to Australian players.

The other option would be a tournament Hobart, Tasmania, an International-level event. That's the lowest tier on the WTA Tour; Bouchard played just one tournament at that level in 2015, a grass-court tuneup in 's-Hertogenbosch, Netherlands before Wimbledon.

She will be unseeded at the Australian Open, and therefore at the mercy of the draw gods to avoid facing a top player as early as the first round.

https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/blogs/eh...ons&soc_trk=tw

All that is assuming she is fit, eager and ready to go as 2016 dawns. If she is, she will be under pressure from the get-go.
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I guess Mr. Morelli doesn't follow tennis if he says "most people" don't know that if you don't play your ranking falls. Maybe he doesn't follow sports at all. If the Golden State Warriors NBA team stopped playing today their ranking would fall.

SMH at her being upset that the USTA was being aggressive with her. What did she expect them to do?

Also interesting that he brought up her sponsors...
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How long will Nike stick with this sinking ship?
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In her first public comments since the US Open, Canadian tennis star Eugenie Bouchard won't commit to January's Australian Open
By Stephanie Myles
19 November, 2015 11:39 AM
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Asked about whether she was looking forward to January's Australian Open, the first major of the 2016 season and her best tournament effort of the 2015 season, Bouchard was vague.

"I don’t know yet. I don’t want to make any comments or commitments in terms of that. Just doing my best to try to get healthy, and yeah, just want to stay positive," she said.
She's making it sound as if she has a choice in the matter. If she declares herself fit and healthy, she has no choice but to play the AO. Of course, it might suit her purposes to to be unfit ...

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Morelli reiterated his stance that despite Bouchard's struggles in 2015, the 21-year-old had a legitimate shot at the US Open and the accident cost her a legitimate opportunity.

"My argument is, this is a young woman, at 21 years old, has already reached the semi-finals in two majors, the finals at Wimbledon, and was once ranked five in the world. The woman who won the US Open (Flavia Pennetta), was 32, never won a major and as soon as she won, she retired. And Serena didn’t win, obviously," he said. "Genie was already in the round of 16. She was playing really, really well, and anyone who knows tennis knows the round of 16, not that bad. Not bad at all."

(...)
This is just whistling past the graveyard, ignoring inconvenient facts.

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Bouchard's early 2016 schedule remains unconfirmed.

She reportedly was not interested in returning to Perth, Australia the first week of January to take part in the Hopman Cup, a mixed exhibition event she played in 2014 with Milos Raonic and this year with Vasek Pospisil. It would have been a perfect, no-pressure way to easy back into competition after what will essentially be four months away.
It makes it sound as if she had a big say in whether Canada would take part in the Hopman Cup next year. Well, maybe she had some influence. After all, she's the only viable option for a Canadian female player in that competition.

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Rather, reports this week were that Bouchard is already entered in the WTA tournament in Shenzen, China, which takes place the same week and is arguably the most low-profile of the tournaments on the schedule that week. (The others are in Brisbane, Australia - a Premier event with a tougher field and more prize money - and Auckland, New Zealand, which is a lot closer to the site of the Australian Open in Melbourne).

As for the week before the Australian Open, which begins Jan. 18, Bouchard's currently-fallen ranking is likely to keep her out of another Premier event in Sydney, one she has played twice before. It's a 32-player draw and the average ranking cutoff over the last six editions has been No. 31 – a long way from Bouchard's currently WTA Tour ranking of No. 48.

She would need a wild card to avoid the relative ignominy of qualifying, and the tournament generally awards its available free passes to Australian players.
It's a 28-player draw, but yes, she's very unlikely to get in. She may not have gotten in event without being injured.

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The other option would be a tournament Hobart, Tasmania, an International-level event. That's the lowest tier on the WTA Tour; Bouchard played just one tournament at that level in 2015, a grass-court tuneup in 's-Hertogenbosch, Netherlands before Wimbledon.
It's also the level where she's won her only WTA title to date.

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She will be unseeded at the Australian Open, and therefore at the mercy of the draw gods to avoid facing a top player as early as the first round.
Well duh. Again, she might have been unseeded anyway.

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All that is assuming she is fit, eager and ready to go as 2016 dawns. If she is, she will be under pressure from the get-go.
She was under pressure all last year ... well, since after the AO anyway. This time, it's just going to start a few weeks earlier.
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I found it funny that one of the stipulations for the interview was that no one would mention Bieber... LMAO

... and then they mentioned Bieber anyway.


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This was a RME comment. What did she think they'd do, treat her like a princess the way Allaster used to? She sued them. Suing them could threaten the survival of the USTA and they're supposed to treat her nicely?

I could be reading into things but I think the response by the USTA was much more aggressive than she expected and she's beginning to realize the consequences of her actions.

As has been pointed out if she declares herself fit she does damage to her claim of being terribly impaired. If she doesn't play Australia she will have to play ITF, $125k and/or International events to get her ranking back, events she seems to consider beneath her. She's boxed in and no one is going to help her get out. Like many said from the beginning what did she hope to accomplish by this?
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My guess is that her lawyers will try to get some sort of protected-ranking for her if there is a settlement. Will she actually get it though??

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Hi, I registered wanting to leave a comment here after having read the article on ESPN.

Has anyone been to the locker rooms at the USTA US open site in NY? What were your impressions? I've been there once, maybe 2 years ago, it was unlit, except for a 'twilight' -- stole the word USTA used as given in the article (though they were talking about some other room, an alleged therapy room, where the fall happened), uncarpeted, and had huge vanity mirrors. It was dim-dark and didn't light up when I went in (if it did I didn't notice). The lack of carpeting was suspicious because it also felt slippery. The combo of dimness and slippery floor me with an unforgettable feeling that this room was a hazard, felt kind of backwards given this was a place built for pro athletes even though it's just for a couple of weeks a year, I guess.
This was ~2 years ago so maybe theyve changed things, but the USTA 'rebuttal' just left me with questions.
Not sure about the women's lockerroom, but from the men's I can remember it's carpeted through the entrance, and then there's two large rooms on both sides, both uncarpeted, one room to the left is for massages (staffed by physios(?), the one to the right is a room for stretching and getting taped (staffed by ATP sports medicine (?). and in the room to the right is another tiny room with two ice bath machines. The ice bath room is literally so small it can pretty much only hold two ice baths.
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poor Bouchard, getting bitchslapped everywhere she turns

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This was a RME comment. What did she think they'd do, treat her like a princess the way Allaster used to? She sued them. Suing them could threaten the survival of the USTA and they're supposed to treat her nicely?

I could be reading into things but I think the response by the USTA was much more aggressive than she expected and she's beginning to realize the consequences of her actions.

As has been pointed out if she declares herself fit she does damage to her claim of being terribly impaired. If she doesn't play Australia she will have to play ITF, $125k and/or International events to get her ranking back, events she seems to consider beneath her. She's boxed in and no one is going to help her get out. Like many said from the beginning what did she hope to accomplish by this?
So people should overlook negligent behaviour by USTA because they are powerful?

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Bouchard was able to play nearly an hour of professional tennis five weeks after the incident. Some people have to sit in a dark room for six months. That means her concussion was relatively mild.


She can't afford to play Hopman Cup. Her ranking without her Aussie points is around 100, and priority number one should be getting some points.
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My argument is, this is a young woman, at 21 years old, has already reached the semi-finals in two majors, the finals at Wimbledon, and was once ranked five in the world. The woman who won the US Open (Flavia Pennetta), was 32, never won a major and as soon as she won, she retired. And Serena didn’t win, obviously," he said. "Genie was already in the round of 16. She was playing really, really well, and anyone who knows tennis knows the round of 16, not that bad. Not bad at all.

This dude has no clue about tennis but his arguments are tennis results he looked up/ was told.

The USTA is saying:

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We want evidence and details, why we should pay her (lost price) money.
What will happen if she bangs her head at a WTA event? Will she sue again and this time against WTA for loses she might have had at ITF events??


His argument is Serena Williams lost. That is what it's all about. So USTA only need to show the Wimbledon final against Kvitova or the match against Vinci ca. 10 days ago her next opponent in New York. Am I right?

Also, what will happen looking at Indian Wells/USA or other countries? Is she allowed to enter the USA/or other countries? There is a court trial pending. How is she going to get work permits?
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Her lawyer may get her some big money but he isn't helping her image in any way.

If her rankings drop, tournament may not giver her WCs if they know she may sue them if something happens. A Premier 470 can't afford a multimillions lawsuit.
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