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Legendary?

Between Justine and Kim who seems MORE POISED to become a legend in the tennis?
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It's hard. You can't predict how their career will continue. Only based on their style of game I would say Justine. She has also created more controversy lately and she is "the little girl who outthinks the powergirls" or she is "the little girl who became a powergirl herself". Both Kim and Justine are very professional and they love the game very much, but Justine has more determination.

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Justine has a MAJOR lead on Kim...because Justine already has two slams and she has beaten Kim in both finals. Plus she has beaten Serena at a slam.

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well when you look at the legends of the sport often times it's the singles and doubles play that really matter - together. that's why i think nav is more legendary than steffi (doubles and longevity). kim has proven to be good at both while justines has only won 2 doubles titles in her career. justines has two grand slams and MORE Tier Is. Kim has 2 DGS and two YEC and more titles but less Tier I and no GS. Justine is more memorable to me which also adds to the criteria. Justine's BH has been heralded by sooo many people. The notoriety is just above Kim's splits. Justine's matches this year at the GS have been memorable and extremely exciting (with Lindsay at AO, Serena at RG, and Jenn at USO). Kim just doesn't have those going for her as of yet.

So who is MORE POISED: Justine, IMO.
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Doubles doesn┤t mean THAT much. Steffi and Martina, the disparity was HUGE because Martina DOMINATED at both.

Kim hasn┤t!

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Yes but Kim will catch up in the GS stakes soon and then history will remember her, because she is an all rounder and much more charismatic than JHH.


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Really?!Then why is there so much debate about Martina and Steffi?! You put the number next to each other and only edge Steffi has is in total GS┤s and it ain┤t even that big. But the gap in the doubles titles is HUGE for Martina....and many consider her more charismatic than Steffi.

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Yes but Kim will catch up in the GS stakes soon and then history will remember her, because she is an all rounder and much more charismatic than JHH.

If charisma was all it took to be considered a legend the list would be much longer then it is now.

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Exactly....then you would get a bunch of Sabatini┤s on the list. Heck, you could even get some deluded Anna fans asking to put her on the list.

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suzanne lenglen that's what I call a legend. let's see what happens in 75 years

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Between Justine and Kim who seems MORE POISED to become a legend in the tennis?

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY TO EARLYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

to talk about this things.

I will be happy if both combined will have achieved more than Hingis on her own.

GS finals : 6 versus 12
GS wins : 2 versus 5
WTA Championships : 2 versus 2
number of weeks number one : 15 versus more than 200
money : 13 million versus 17 million
number of tournaments : more than 40 versus more than 50
number of TI tournaments : 8 versus 15

Still a few years to go, but because they are with two the gap is fast getting smaller (think about the 17 wins this year versus the 12 of Hingis in 1997)
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Justine is blatantly more poised at the moment.

BTW there is only one Sabatini that matters and she's a legend already.
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If charisma was all it took to be considered a legend the list would be much longer then it is now.
Lets wait and see shall we? Many words have been written about Kim being a "choker" when it comes to GSs. Believe it or not, Andre Agassi lost his first 3 GS finals, but no-one in their right mind would dare call him a choker to his face these days! No, everyone describes him as a legend.

I'll eat my words in a few years if Kim is still slamless, okay? Charisma IS part of the package too.

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They're both legends already!!
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It's hard. You can't predict how their career will continue. Only based on their style of game I would say Justine. She has also created more controversy lately and she is "the little girl who outthinks the powergirls" or she is "the little girl who became a powergirl herself". Both Kim and Justine are very professional and they love the game very much, but Justine has more determination.
Justine is NOT professional.
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