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How do you feel when a player retires a game or two away from losing?

While I may feel sorry for the player, I can't help being suspicious that she is a sore loser unless the injury happens all of a sudden.
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Adrenaline blocks pain. When your getting beaten badly, and the match is non-competitive, adrenaline stops flowing. And all those aches and pains you weren't feeling you now DO feel.

I've played on ankle sprains, and while the match is close, I don't even feel it.When I'm down a set and 2 breaks, the same ankle HURTS. The process is biological, not psychological. And if you stop and think about it. Every player onthe tour has lost HUNDREDS of times. If they were withdrawing when they weren't injured, wouldn't that pattern be rather obvious?

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Alex Stevenson is the queen of retiring when she's one or 2 games away from losing. I like her, but she's a sore and ungracious loser.
Yeah, is that why there is only THREE matches where she has done this??

Please people, and none of them (maybe one if I saw wrong) were even where she was one game away.

She has retired 11 times in her career, and most are within the first two games of the second set.

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Yeah, is that why there is only THREE matches where she has done this??

Please people, and none of them (maybe one if I saw wrong) were even where she was one game away.

She has retired 11 times in her career, and most are within the first two games of the second set.
Here they are:

Magui Serna (ESP) L 1-6 0-1 ret
Maria Vento-Kabchi (VEN) L 3-6 1-2 ret, and the very next tournament...
Daniela Hantuchova (SVK) L 3-6 ret
Lina Krasnoroutskaya (RUS) L 2-6 0-1 ret
Tina Pisnik (SLO) L 3-6 2-2 ret
Elena Dementieva (RUS) L 2-6 0-2 ret, and the very next tournament...
Marion Maruska (AUT) L 6-7(6) 0-4 ret
Tamarine Tanasugarn (THA) L 1-6 1-4 ret , and the very next tournament...
Abigail Spears (USA) L 7-6(4) 6-7(7) 1-3 ret
Viktoriya Kutuzova (UKR) L 3-6 3-3 ret
Anastasia Myskina (RUS) L 6-0 1-6 0-4 ret

Count them, THREE, and three two consecutive tournaments in which she retired, not to mention this year's back problems where she withdrew from a few tournaments because of it.

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3 times is already way too much... Come on, one time ok, but when it's more than one time it's not normal.
If you're injured, you're injured.

Maybe it was alright when she started the match, but got worse and worse as she continued. You don't know why, so why judge her??

People will just find any excuse they can for hatin' her.

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a lot of players have done it and do it. it doesnt mean they are sore losers. Like Volcana said, when the match is close, and you are in the heat of the moment. you just think about staying intense and focusing on winning the match. when you are down, you start thinking about it more and therefore it hurts. Sure, some players could stick it out until the end but I dont blame them if they retire.

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Adrenaline blocks pain. When your getting beaten badly, and the match is non-competitive, adrenaline stops flowing. And all those aches and pains you weren't feeling you now DO feel.

I've played on ankle sprains, and while the match is close, I don't even feel it.When I'm down a set and 2 breaks, the same ankle HURTS. The process is biological, not psychological. And if you stop and think about it. Every player onthe tour has lost HUNDREDS of times. If they were withdrawing when they weren't injured, wouldn't that pattern be rather obvious?
and i suppose that's why justine is supposed to lose when she's sick/injured and the match is close?

and if she doesnt she's cheating somehow?

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a lot of players have done it and do it. it doesnt mean they are sore losers. Like Volcana said, when the match is close, and you are in the heat of the moment. you just think about staying intense and focusing on winning the match. when you are down, you start thinking about it more and therefore it hurts. Sure, some players could stick it out until the end but I dont blame them if they retire.
But then why do some players do it way more often than others?
Some players seem to continue on until the final point no matter how bad the injury is and some seem to quit just for precautions though there is a very good chance of crossing the finish line.
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But then why do some players do it way more often than others?
Some players seem to continue on until the final point no matter how bad the injury is and some seem to quit just for precautions though there is a very good chance of crossing the finish line.
I'd like a list.

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I'd like a list.
I'm not saying they are sore losers but they seem to have done it quite a few times. Graf, the Williams sisters and of course Alex Stevy.
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How is it hatin' I'm not hating on her, I'm just stating a fact, that she's a sore loser.
Because she retired in a match where she was injured??

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One... You mean 11.
WHERE SHE WAS INJURED!!!!!

What part of INJURY don't you understand??

We think players are sore losers because they retire in a match due to INJURY?? Damn that Justine for retiring against Jen in 2001, DAMN HER!!

Damn Venus and Serena for retiring in matches!!

Damn that Davenport!!

Give me a break!!

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11 times, that's quite a lot Sounds like a Guiness record.
So, sue the girl for having injuries. Haven't you heard of people having injuries, and some having injuries more than others??

You're pathetic.

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I'm not saying they are sore losers but they seem to have done it quite a few times. Graf, the Williams sisters and of course Alex Stevy.
You've said they have done it a lot, where's the list of where they have done it??

Just another HATER thread.

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in response to the title of this thread...I feel that the player is more concerned over aggrovating their injury rather than entertaining the crowd or winning the match.

Nothing wrong with that priority
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