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post #1 of 42 (permalink) Old Nov 22nd, 2003, 07:02 PM Thread Starter
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Will Maggie's domination over Venus continue?

Maggie is about the only player other than Serena who owns Venus.
Do you think her domination over Vee will continue or finally Venus will turn it around?
Personally Venus has yet to find a way to beat Maggie and Maggie knows exactly how to beat her. So I expect the next time they face off, we will see the same result we have seen in the past.
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it's hardly a domination ....

maggie has never beaten venus on a surface other than indoor carpet, and one of her three wins came when venus was still in diapers.
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You know what? Maggie automatically brings her A game whenever she sees Venus on the other side of the court. It doesn't matter when she has beaten Venus. With or without diapers, Venus was Venus!
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It would be nice to see Maggie beat Venus again...she must have been happy, especially with the win in Moscow last year, where she eventually won...if only I had seen it last year
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You know what? Maggie automatically brings her A game whenever she sees Venus on the other side of the court. It doesn't matter when she has beaten Venus. With or without diapers, Venus was Venus!
It does matter. A win in 1995 is hardly the same thing as beating Venus in 2002.

And I don't think it's that simple. Indoor surfaces favour Maleeva, and usually Venus isn't so sharp on them. I'm not taking anything away from Maggie, she beat Venus twice indoors over the past couple years and that's very impressive. But she was demolished at the Australian Open by Venus (2002), and again way back in 1998 in Sydney. I do think that the only time Maleeva can be competitive against Venus is indoors. If they play anywhere else, I don't see Maggie coming out the winner.
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It does matter. A win in 1995 is hardly the same thing as beating Venus in 2002.

And I don't think it's that simple. Indoor surfaces favour Maleeva, and usually Venus isn't so sharp on them. I'm not taking anything away from Maggie, she beat Venus twice indoors over the past couple years and that's very impressive. But she was demolished at the Australian Open by Venus (2002), and again way back in 1998 in Sydney. I do think that the only time Maleeva can be competitive against Venus is indoors. If they play anywhere else, I don't see Maggie coming out the winner.
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post #7 of 42 (permalink) Old Nov 22nd, 2003, 07:22 PM
 
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You've got to laugh that Maleeva has a positive record over Venus - nice one Maggie .

at calling it domination though.
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For whatever reason, a lot of great players had an Achilles' heel. Arthur Ashe had Rod Laver (0-33, that's right, OH AND THIRTY-THREE lifetime). Bjorn Borg had the US Open. Ivan Lendl had Wimbledon. Lindsay Davenport plays great against Venus, but Serena owns her. Jennifer Capriati gives Serena all she can handle, but gets pimp-slapped whenever she plays Venus. Maggie Maleeva just has Venus' number, that's all. There are only three players who don't surprise me when they beat Venus: Serena, Lindsay and Maggie.

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when you don´t count their first meeting, you cannot count the meeting in 1998 either, because maggie was playing with some injuries.
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when you don´t count their first meeting, you cannot count the meeting in 1998 either, because maggie was playing with some injuries.
didn't say that I didn't count it. Just that it's less impressive.

And in January 1998, Venus had yet to crack the top 20. Apparently Maggie felt she was fit enough to go on the court, and that's good enough for me.
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If this is domination I dunno

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But let the people have their lil fun. You know one or two wins over a Williams can be the sole highlight for some players´s careers.

So Maggie-fans: here, Maggie "dominates" Venus...she can have that, Venus got the slams anyways.

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But let the people have their lil fun. You know one or two wins over a Williams can be the sole highlight for some players´s careers.

So Maggie-fans: here, Maggie "dominates" Venus...she can have that, Venus got the slams anyways.
Serena also dominates Justine.
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sssh.....DON´T tell NOBODY!

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hmm....I wanna see V and Maggie play on Grass! THAT would be interesting!


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