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Monica vs. Graf: who's greater?

For me Monica is the greater one hands down.
Steffi's careern wouldn't have been nearly as good had Monica been always around. I'm not saying Monica was much better but at least better then the shnuz. What do you think?
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what a FANTABULOUS thread

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here we go.......................AGAIN!!
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I think you are selesrules trying to stir up trouble. Just my opinion.

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of course they're trying to stir up trouble

its a FACT that graf's greater

grandslams

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Neither! Anna Kournikova is the best!

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of course they're trying to stir up trouble

its a FACT that graf's greater

grandslams

graf 22
seles 9
Not so fast, dude!
If it hadn't been for the stabbing, Graf's GS titiles would have been significantly less and Monica's would have been more.
The way Monica was dominating prior to the incident, it's fair to assume she would have won much more majors.
And of course Graf's career is much greater "thanks" to Monica's abesence in most part.
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steffi won loads of grandslams BEFORE seles was around when legends navratilova and evert were playing.

when monica came back- it was steffi that won the slams (95,96) monica won 1 (96) which steffi wasn't in

no point in saying IF, the facts remain the same.

GRAF IS THE GREATEST!!!!!!!
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steffi won loads of grandslams BEFORE seles was around when legends navratilova and evert were playing.

when monica came back- it was steffi that won the slams (95,96) monica won 1 (96) which steffi wasn't in

no point in saying IF, the facts remain the same.

GRAF IS THE GREATEST!!!!!!!
When Monica came back, she wasn't the same as the pre-stabbing Seles, remember?
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When Monica came back, she wasn't the same as the pre-stabbing Seles, remember?
yes i know. the game had moved on.....seles couldnt keep up...graf could!
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yes i know. the game had moved on.....seles couldnt keep up...graf could!
That's another wrong on your part. Monica was forced off the tour thanks to that German freak. The game hadn't changed much in Monica's absense and it was simply that Monica wasn't the same Monica when she came back. She wasn't as fit or confident... her career was ruined by one psycho!
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steffi leads their career meetings 10-5!

its sad that u have to find excuses for seles.
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Both are them are brilliant players. Isn't that enough? Choosing one over the other is entirely subjective and largely pointless.

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Yes, it's clear you're both biased, although I do think that james is being extreme--Monica suffered so much--you just can't blame her for the "tour moving on." I'd like to see how you would have handled her situation...

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look dont be idiots, other players have their problems too.

seles's problems were just made very public

capriati overcame her problems just like many others

seles fans just like to hide behind the fact that she was stabbed so thaey can use it for an excuse that she cant win grandslams any more because of something that happened over 10 years ago.
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