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Is the WTA's Champions Race Fair?

The WTA's champions race is counting points earned in all tournaments, instead of counting the best 17. Do you think this race is fair?

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Um, why would it not be? Considering it's only to determine who will make the year-end championship.

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Oops. I accidentally posted this twice. I think I'll delete the other topic.
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The WTA's champions race is counting points earned in all tournaments, instead of counting the best 17. Do you think this race is fair?
Yeah I think it's good so that you can have different players qualify other than the top 8 in the 52 week ranking.
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I think that the race awards quantity over quality. That's why I personally don't like it.

I think if it's nip and tuck for the last spot and a player with 5 more tournaments gets the spot then it's unfair.

I like the ATP's race better as it puts a limit on tournaments that count (although they only count 5 non Slam/Masters Series events)

I think a better idea would be to count points from the 4 Slams and a maximum of 13 other tournaments.
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Yeah I think it's good so that you can have different players qualify other than the top 8 in the 52 week ranking.
Yeah...´cause even like this, you still pretty much know at least 6 names who are gonna make it barring injuries.

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Everyone plays under the same rules, knows what they are in advance, and can make their schedule accordingly. I think it is fair.
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I think that if someone is in the top 5-6 by the end of the US Open, then they deserve to play the year-end championship regardless of how well they do in the fall.

IMO the tournaments held up through the US Open (8 months) are a lot more important than the ones between the US Open and the Championships (2 months). I think the way you play during the Grand Slam season is by far the most important.

Justine, Kim and Serena are the only players who have officially qualified. But IMO, Lindsay and Jennifer should be in by now. I actually think the 7th and 8th spots should be the only spots left for grabs.
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I'm puzzled as to why anyone who is in the top 5-6 by the end of the USO is any more deserving than the person who is 7-8 at that stage? Everyone knows the rules and everyone has equal opportunity to qualify. Let's face it, slams earn more points so it is not as if someone who is way outside at the end of USO is going to waltz into top 8 without putting in some amazing performances and in that case these should not be discounted just because they come after USO. After all a race implies a race to the finish of the season rather to 3/4's of the way.


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I think that if someone is in the top 5-6 by the end of the US Open, then they deserve to play the year-end championship regardless of how well they do in the fall.

IMO the tournaments held up through the US Open (8 months) are a lot more important than the ones between the US Open and the Championships (2 months). I think the way you play during the Grand Slam season is by far the most important.

Justine, Kim and Serena are the only players who have officially qualified. But IMO, Lindsay and Jennifer should be in by now. I actually think the 7th and 8th spots should be the only spots left for grabs.
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The Race counts ALL tournaments played? What crap. I had no idea. I never plug with the womens rankings, only the mens. Even if it does make little to no difference at the end if they count every tournament, I still find it absurd that they have a race that doesn't correspond to the "real ranking" Am I missing something here?
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IMO, it should be based on the GSs and the TIs only. That would get players to focus on playing less so they could be healthy for the big events.

ugh, why do they all suck????????
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The format is new this year, they might implement something new next year after they see if this was successful or not.
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how will the seeds work? i think Venus will be knoked out, if she even wants to be there.

1) Justine
2) Kim
3) Serena
4) Jennifer
5) Lindsay
6) Amelie
7) Myskina
8) Dementieva/Sugiyama/Venus
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and it really is pretty stupid, for Serena to be #3 when shes only played 6 tournies, its scandalous really. Shes a really bad spokeperson who always pulls out. What ever happened to the words "fufilling your commitment to your proffession"??
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I was not aware of this change. It's asinine, which of course means that it matches the round robin format perfectly.

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