Originally Posted by DEETHELICK
Elena definitely has more wins over the elite players and has had good success in the higher tier tournaments
Right, and WHO won Moscow again? Refresh my memory.
and had a chance to hit a career high (and Russian high for ladies)
She didn't do it, so why should it matter? Anna K had a chance to win a tournament (many, actually), and she didn't do it. No one is saying "she had a chance to win a tournament".
won her 1st tournament defeating the TOP players
Well, it also took her 5 years to do it. Nastya did it much quicker. That is unfair.
Has reached the SFs of a GS, etc.
When Nastya gets a piss-easy draw like that and doesn't make the semi-finals, then gimme a call.
And since that time over 3 years ago, Elena has failed to make it past the fourth round of a slam.
We look at how many events Elena played, but how many points did she actually gain from them. She lost 1st round AO, FO and Miami (3 VERY big events) and numerous other 1st round losses as well.
So all of a sudden losing early in those tournaments is a good thing? Just because she got more points in other events? No, I don't think so. The best Russian isn't supposed to lose in the first round of three of the biggest tournaments of the year. You're basically taking away Elena's worst three tournaments of the year and saying well now she has as many tournaments as Nastya so it's okay. No, it doesn't work like that.
The only reason why Elena hasn't got all the titles Myskina has is because she was mentally weaker before, with confidence under her belt it'll be good to see what Elena achieves. I'm looking for those stats to change in 2004.
Ok, I'll give you that, before this year Elena was mentally weaker, sure. But let's take a look at how many titles each has in 2003
I really am happy for Myskina, but she wins a weak Tier I and all of a sudden she is the best Russian. I've always maintained that Anna K and Elena D were the best Russians, at least one of them is starting to live upto the promise.
Excuse me, but if Elena had won that "weak Tier I" you would've been kissing her ass and you know it. It's a Tier I and that's it. Elena couldn't beat Momo and Nastya could. It's not a case of Nastya becoming
the "best Russian", but people finally realizing it. She has taken so much shit on this board; she's incredibly underrated.
The only reason people considered Elena the best Russian is because they have short-term memories and are fair-weather fans. Just because Alyona's had a few good tournaments this year doesn't automatically mean she is the best.