If DementiewaMyskina go on like this, Venus is pushed out of "LA" before Advanta !!! - TennisForum.com
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If DementiewaMyskina go on like this, Venus is pushed out of "LA" before Advanta !!!

Both are "hot" at the moment and are able, together with Amelie, to put some space in the rankings between them and Venus the next 3 weeks.

We´ve 3 weeks without Venus left and if Dementiewa and Myskina play all 3 of this successfully, it will be a big problem wether or not Venus can catch enough points to leave that 9th spot and become 8th again in Philadelphia. If all 3 players, Amelie Elena and Anastasya look at the Chase rankings, they´ll know about that and try to play Quebec or Advanta too then. That could be a race noone expects right now as everybody says "A Williams has to be "in"" but if the others deserve the spot according to their results, Venus could be "out".
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Both are "hot" at the moment and are able, together with Amelie, to put some space in the rankings between them and Venus the next 3 weeks.

We´ve 3 weeks without Venus left and if Dementiewa and Myskina play all 3 of this successfully, it will be a big problem wether or not Venus can catch enough points to leave that 9th spot and become 8th again in Philadelphia. If all 3 players, Amelie Elena and Anastasya look at the Chase rankings, they´ll know about that and try to play Quebec or Advanta too then. That could be a race noone expects right now as everybody says "A Williams has to be "in"" but if the others deserve the spot according to their results, Venus could be "out".
Venus will probably make it. No one is sure if Davenport is playing there, and Venus still has the option to play Zurich or Linz if she wants to. A win at Advanta would probably lock up a position for Venus no matter what.
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yeah I was just looking at the race to champs rankings and Myskina could push Venus out of the top 8 if she plays well in Filderstadt, thought both Dementieve and Myskina have interesting 1st round matches

7 VENUS WILLIAMS 2211.00 6
8 ELENA DEMENTIEVA 2210.00 24
9 ANASTASIA MYSKINA 2128.00 20

Mind you if Venus plays next week then her position is pretty much safe... though I highly doubt Venus will play.

Guess we have to wait and see, just hope Venus is emotionally and physically all right.


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sunset, the LA race is not based on the rankings 52-weeks overall but a seperate ranking based on points earned over the year.

In that race, Venus Amelie Elena and Myskina are much closer.

I think Venus won´t come to Europe for just one event and those mentioning Linz, Serena was to appear in Linz, not Venus.

I think the 3 Europeans have an excellent draw in Stuttgart with Amelie probably facing injured Kim, Myskina facing injured Lindsay and Elena facing tired Henin.
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UGH!myskian instead of venus in the championships is a BIG NO NO!!!
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sunset, the LA race is not based on the rankings 52-weeks overall but a seperate ranking based on points earned over the year.

In that race, Venus Amelie Elena and Myskina are much closer.

I think Venus won´t come to Europe for just one event and those mentioning Linz, Serena was to appear in Linz, not Venus.

I think the 3 Europeans have an excellent draw in Stuttgart with Amelie probably facing injured Kim, Myskina facing injured Lindsay and Elena facing tired Henin.
Venus can always take Serena's place as they usually do, but I agree Venus probably won't go to Europe.
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lol for a second there I was doubting myself... ChrisGermany, I know that- I posted the current race to the champs.


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Hi sunset

I already calculated my tips for Stuttgart and according to that Venus is no9 for LA after that with Myskina reaching the quarterfinals and ElenaD reaching the finals. If it comes to this or not, there are 2 more weeks left for the Europeans and I think it´s an interesting fact that the Williams -apart from the tragic circumstances at the moment and their injuries before that- always believe they create the "top pairing" in tennis which they usually are, yes, but if one does not make it a tragic year they already have to face I wonder which of the 2 will decide to go or if they decide to skip it both.

If the Europeans make enough points up to Advanta, Venus isn´t even able to go by winning it Philly.
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I dont see why everybody is worrying. If Venus want to play in philly she will play. There is no way that the oraganisers would not work out some way to get Venus in.
At the end of the day it comes down to money. And Venus is a huge draw card like her or not.
If Venus wants to play philly she will
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Serena probably won't play the YEC, so V would only have to be in top 9. More power to her.

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Serena probably won't play the YEC, so V would only have to be in top 9. More power to her.
What makes you think that Serena won't play LA? All indications are that she and/or Venus will play Philly and then play the Championships. Anyway, it's all just speculation. If they wanna play, they will and if they don't, they won't. As for qualifying for the Championships, I doubt Venus will be too heartbroken if she doesn't!
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Noone said that Venus won´t play Philly.

The question is wether or not

a) Venus will be pushed down to no9 in the race
b) her points in Advanta won´t bring her to LA if
the others are doing to well before Advanta
c) wether or not both Williams would show up in
LA or if both would skip it then or the one would
support the other

My answers are

a) Myskina Dementiewa and Mauresmo will push
Venus to no9 before Quebec/Philadelphia
b) Both Venus and Serena are scheduled to appear
in Advanta, yes, but Serena will be the one if
Venus has NO chance of qualifying and Venus
will be the on if Venus HAS a chance of
qualifying
- imagine that a Serena-Venus semis in Philly
would end in Venus´ defeat and ruining her LA
chances. I don´t see the Williams family putting
that test on them in that difficult times anyway
c) so my conclusion is, if the other girls from around
the globe just make too many points so that
Venus would not make it even if winning Advanta
Serena will withdraw from LA as well and the
WTA will be without their headliners the very last
minute

In their present tragic circumstances, noone could blame them but I doubt it would be good that both would not go if one does not qualify.
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As much as i would like to see venus back, if she is not ready physically to play in Zurich, or Advanta, she sure won't be ready for the YEC even if she qualifies.

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Isn't Lindsay out for sure? So we know the top nine are able to go right?
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