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How many GS's do current players need to win for consideration to be greatest ever??

I'd say around 15 GS and about 80 titles. Is that too little for this day and age?? What do you think.
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...I don't really understand the question...surely the logical answer would be more than 22...because that's the most anybody has won...unless you're accepting other factors can be used to judge who is the best ever...in which case the question becomes irrelevant...
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...I don't really understand the question...surely the logical answer would be more than 22...because that's the most anybody has won...unless you're accepting other factors can be used to judge who is the best ever...in which case the question becomes irrelevant...
How uniformed you are. The most anyone has won is 24. Anyway I am obviously accepting other factors into the equation seeing as the game changes over the years.
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I think if you win 4, or win one of each then you are remembered. People like Henin may not be remembered as well as Serena, as she won all 4. Venus probably would not be rememered as well as Serena.

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How uniformed you are. The most anyone has won is 24. Anyway I am obviously accepting other factors into the equation seeing as the game changes over the years.
...well exceeeeeeoooooose me for not remembering that...if the game changes then the number is irrelevant, is it not...?
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Serena
Venus
Jennifer
Monica
Hingis
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They will ALL be remembered 50 years from now....for different reasons obviously (the belgians in europe, but not in N.America)
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Yeah, I think if you end up with around 15 GS...in this age, you must have been pretty serious!

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IMO, anyone from this generation with more than 10 GS titles is one of the greatest.
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...well exceeeeeeoooooose me for not remembering that...if the game changes then the number is irrelevant, is it not...?
LOL.

To be one of the greatest ever, I'd think probably you need longevity rather than numbers.
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Single player? 23 or 25 depending how you regard Margaret Court.
Its difficult to argue Court, Navratilova, Evert, Graf etc faced less competitive times when they overlapped each other and you look at the uncompetitive finals of recent years. The problem is if power tennis shortens careers and leaves it impossible to win teens of GS - you can't use GS wins as a criteria then and all the alternatives are subjective.
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Monica needs 8. She didn't need the 96 Australian to prove anything. Anyone else needs 12.

You have to answer for Santino, Carlo.
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It depends

If Monica Seles had ended her career, she could be, like dh said considered the greatest ever only at 8.

but under normal circumstances, 18
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where are you people coming up with these numbers from? 12, 18, 15...?!
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I'd say you would have to do something remarkable that Steffi nor Martina ever did like win seven granslams in a row or go undeated for a year with at least 60 or 70 matches. Anyway, there will always be different opinions on who is the absolute greatest. Some people measure quantity and say Steffi, other people say Martina Navi because of her singles plus doubles tittles as well. But I think just being mentioned as one of the greatest is a more realistic goal for todays players. There are a certain two who have already made history and will probably make the tennis hall of fame for that feat alone.
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I'd say around 15 GS and about 80 titles. Is that too little for this day and age?? What do you think.
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Look, Venus and Serena will never catch Graf in the number of Slams or titles, so how much longer before I can say they're better than her?
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