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post #1 of 34 (permalink) Old Aug 23rd, 2003, 05:07 PM Thread Starter
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Pilot Pen Champ Jennifer: A contender or just lucky?

Jennifer has won her first title since the Australian 2002, the result of both her semi and final opponents Amelie and Lindsay retiring in the second sets of their matches.

To be fair, today Jennifer was hitting shots all over the court even before Lindsay retired due to her toe, 6/2 4/0.

Do you think Jennifer is a contender for the US Open title, or is her Pilot Pen win a fluke making her look like a favorite when she isn't?

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post #2 of 34 (permalink) Old Aug 23rd, 2003, 05:07 PM
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A contender and this is just what she needed to realize it herself...... Great week Jenny!

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SHE played VERY VERY WELL. She is a big big threat. Which makes me sad since I wanted JUSTINE or KIM to win but I like JENNY TOO!
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Well, neither really. It puts her back into contention to an extent - it's proved that she at least is over her shoulder injury, and it won't be a factor at the US Open. On the other hand, what's she actually done here? Made matches against Bovina and Pistolesi much harder than she should have, then benefited from a sick Mauresmo and hobbled Davenport withdrawing. It doesn't mean she's NOT a contender, but it doesn't mean she's a favourite either.
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No doubt about it ......She was a contender for the USO crown with or without this title .

However this title win makes her now a stronger contender. She now has won three set matches and has wins over other top ten players ranked above her !Watchout Justine and Kim !!
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Please.....Jennifer was playing great tennis last night and today, regardless of her opponents. Her opponent retiring had nothing to do with her hitting smoking forehands and being consistent with her serve. It's the best she has played in a long time and I am encouraged by it greatly. She would have won both matches even in the player didn't retire. Don't discredit Jen's wins....she earned them all.

Wait a sec....i just saw the "hobbling Davenport" above and have to respond. I like Lindsay and I really feel for her pain and disappointment (I even cried with her), but she was not "hobbling" until the last two games or so. Jen was clearly playing better the whole match, so don't give me that crap about Lindsay losing because of her toe injury.
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If Jen isn't a real contender, then who is? (apart from kim and justine)
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post #8 of 34 (permalink) Old Aug 23rd, 2003, 05:24 PM
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poor jen her title is tainted from injury withdrawals

she played well and might have won if both her opponents were healthy but we only know what did happen and what did happen was she played two hampered players who had to withdraw due to injury.

Anyway because of that I say both. She was always a contender the minute Venus and Serena withdrew. She was "lucky" for lack of a better word that at the end her opponents due to physical reasons weren't up to the challenge.
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I don't think Amelie started out ill. I don't think Lindsay started out with her toe inflamed. Jen was playing winning tennis through the first sets. I suspect Jen knows that and has the confidence she'd have if the matches were finished.
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She's a contender and she was lucky. How can you not call winning a title due to two retirements not lucky? would she have won if they were healthy? who knows?

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Well, neither really. It puts her back into contention to an extent - it's proved that she at least is over her shoulder injury, and it won't be a factor at the US Open. On the other hand, what's she actually done here? Made matches against Bovina and Pistolesi much harder than she should have, then benefited from a sick Mauresmo and hobbled Davenport withdrawing. It doesn't mean she's NOT a contender, but it doesn't mean she's a favourite either.
I'd bet you didn't even watch her matches against Bovina and Pistolesi...
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Treufreund: Forgive me since I haven't posted here in a while (see my sig). Anyway, when did you start liking Serena

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post #13 of 34 (permalink) Old Aug 23rd, 2003, 05:40 PM
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Amelie wasn't even sick until Jen started killing her, she just was a baby so she pulled out. Jen would have beaten both amelie and lindsay. People who say it's just luck are bitter and upset that Jen can win the USO.
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I'd bet you didn't even watch her matches against Bovina and Pistolesi...
Well if you did, you'd know he was right; there was no way the Pistolesi match should have gone to a third set.

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Tratree - Of course her hobbled opponents have something to do with it!! If Amelie was sick, her movement was likely hurt, which means she couldn't get to balls she normally would get to...which makes Jennifer's shots look better. The same could be said of Lindsay.

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