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Wink Let’s prove here we can discuss things like grown-ups

1.Let’s be honest. Kim will be trashed after the US-Open no matter what. There are 2 possibilities

A.Kim wins the US-Open -> Comment “she only won because the Williams sisters weren’t there”
B.Kim loses -> Comment “even when the sisters aren’t there, she can’t win a slam, how pathetic for a “number 1” “

2. The sisters will not be at the US-Open, but nobody is to blame for that. Not Serena and Venus but especially not the other players. What should they do? Not go to the US-Open because the sisters aren’t there or try to make it a good tournament? The Williams are probably the best 2 players in the world right now but isn't the WTA more than just Serena and Venus.
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post #2 of 21 (permalink) Old Aug 23rd, 2003, 11:35 AM
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ok...whining is a great sign of being fully grown up.
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Yeah I guess your right, I just really hope that someone from outside the top 10 can win here, and make a name for themselevs. It would make the slam more entertaining.

But I would also like to see Kim win a slam, she deserves it.

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i want a young up and comer to come through and win. winning a grand slam as a young player is huge for a player it could be the difference between being a regular grand slam winner and to being just an average top 50 player.

Go the aussies! stosur!!!
and good luck russians: dementieva, safina, kirilenko, sharapova, kuznetsova, bovina, zvonareva, dushevina.

also good luck to: azarenka, lucic, sprem, vakulenko, vaidisova, safarova, ivanovic, groenefeld, mirza, krajicek, kvitkova, larcher de brito, lisicki.
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So thats Maria Sharapova then Gowza

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dava_russianrule, yes i'd love it if she won. but not only her. the 18's and under are the category i'm talking about.

but actually there are a few older players that could benefit like hantuchova, stevenson and vakulenko. all have potential to be great players. i also wouldn't mind if they won or at least had good results.

but yes sharapova is the one i'm really going for.

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and good luck russians: dementieva, safina, kirilenko, sharapova, kuznetsova, bovina, zvonareva, dushevina.

also good luck to: azarenka, lucic, sprem, vakulenko, vaidisova, safarova, ivanovic, groenefeld, mirza, krajicek, kvitkova, larcher de brito, lisicki.
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I would love masha to win but she would have to take out my Elena on the way.

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Kim will get a lot of flack if she doesn't win and hangs on to number one for awhile. True enough.

But a lot of the problem will go away as soon as she wins a slam. Although some in the press will always trash anyone who does not beat a Williams sister.
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What pisses me off is people forget that she won the tour championships, which I think provides the most points for a title win, if Im correct.

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i wouldn't mind if elena d won she's up there on my list.

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also good luck to: azarenka, lucic, sprem, vakulenko, vaidisova, safarova, ivanovic, groenefeld, mirza, krajicek, kvitkova, larcher de brito, lisicki.
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I just checked and no it doesnt.

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Kim will get a lot of flack if she doesn't win and hangs on to number one for awhile. True enough.

But a lot of the problem will go away as soon as she wins a slam. Although some in the press will always trash anyone who does not beat a Williams sister.
Yeah that's true... When she would win the US-Open they will trash her a little bit down in the first couple of weeks/months/... But in the end, they will only remember that she has won a grand slam and that's what matters...
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Exclamation 3

3. Also with that "I won't be watching the US-Open now". Of course there will be many people who will not watch now because their favourites aren't playing this year and you can't blame them really. But to try to boycot this event by convincing the others not to watch this event is crap. Then you will only obtain that there could be much less live-covering in the future and the Women's Final next year could not longer be in prime-time. You don't know what the final will be. This can stiil be a great Tournament, just give it a chance...
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Yeah i think Kim will have a rough deal but if she win's the open - shes nothing but a respectable grand slam champion in my mind just like Venus and Serena
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What pisses me off is people forget that she won the tour championships, which I think provides the most points for a title win, if Im correct.
No slams give you at least 100 more points.

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