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Best hardcourt players in history.

With the Open around the corner, I sat down and made my list for best hardcourt players in history.

Top 5:
1. Serena( her game´s BUILD for hardcourts. 2 open titles.)
2. Venus( also good on hardcourts, but I think grass is her best surface. 2 titles.)
3. Lindsay( arguably the best until the sisters arrived. 1 title.)
4. Steffi( 4 or 5 titles, plus numerous Nasdaqs....although that record looks increasingly weak every year.)
5. Martina H( 3 straight finals, 1 title.)
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With the Open around the corner, I sat down and made my list for best hardcourt players in history.

Top 5:
1. Serena( her game´s BUILD for hardcourts. 2 open titles.)
2. Venus( also good on hardcourts, but I think grass is her best surface. 2 titles.)
3. Lindsay( arguably the best until the sisters arrived. 1 title.)
4. Steffi( 4 or 5 titles, plus numerous Nasdaqs....although that record looks increasingly weak every year.)
5. Martina H( 3 straight finals, 1 title.)
You seem to have a short term memory
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steffi's us open record doesn't look weak at all. she won her first under the mental worst possible circumstances, knowing what would have happened if she had failed

another thing that deserves more credit but no people only bash because she felt empty inside and didn't played fake emotions

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You seem to have a short term memory
Could be....that´s why I asked other´s opinion.
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Monica Seles has more US Open titles than Lindsay and Martina do and the same number of US Open titles as Venus and Serena. She's also won 2 NASDAQ titles. Martina Hingis has won 2 NASDAQ titles and Lindsay has never won the NASDAQ.

Chris Evert won so many US Open titles, including 3 consecutive.

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well, there are too many.

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What criteria are you using? Are you talking about the levels of play the player displayed? In that case, the most recent players will of course be at the top of the list. But if you're going to talk about the "greatest in history," it's more appropriate to base it on actual achievements. And in that department, there's no way either Williams sister or Lindsay D can top Graf, Navratilova, or Evert (at least not yet).
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What criteria are you using? Are you talking about the levels of play the player displayed? In that case, the most recent players will of course be at the top of the list. But if you're going to talk about the "greatest in history," it's more appropriate to base it on actual achievements. And in that department, there's no way either Williams sister or Lindsay D can top Graf, Navratilova, or Evert (at least not yet).
Yep I was talking more about level of play.....and who would beat who on their best days on hardcourts.
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Chris Evert won so many US Open titles, including 3 consecutive.
Half of Chris's US Open titles were not on Hardcourt, however. Actually, she won 4 consecutive, but the first 3 of those were on Clay. What about Martina Navratilova, who won the US Open 4 times in a 5 year period and lost the Final the other year?

You have to answer for Santino, Carlo.
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steffi's us open record against nav is pretty bad.

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monica's got 4 ausopen titles, 2 usopen titles, 4 canadian open titles, and lots of hardcourt titles
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steffi's us open record against nav is pretty bad.
Actually, it's not. How many U.S. Opens did Martina Navratilova play before she finally won? I think she had been playing the Open since 1974 or 75, and it took her until 1983 to finally break through, and then she faltered as soon as Graf and Seles came along.

Graf had a shakey U.S. Open start as a teenager, but then broke through and won in 1988, 1989, 1993, 1995, 1996, and played in a handful of finals. She never played her best there, either. I think her best hardcourt matches have been in California and who can forget the U.S. Women's Hardcourt Final in 1991 when she blew Seles out of the water!
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Why isn't Monica not in there ?
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Actually, it's not. How many U.S. Opens did Martina Navratilova play before she finally won? I think she had been playing the Open since 1974 or 75, and it took her until 1983 to finally break through, and then she faltered as soon as Graf and Seles came along.

Graf had a shakey U.S. Open start as a teenager, but then broke through and won in 1988, 1989, 1993, 1995, 1996, and played in a handful of finals. She never played her best there, either. I think her best hardcourt matches have been in California and who can forget the U.S. Women's Hardcourt Final in 1991 when she blew Seles out of the water!
I didn't mean steffi's overall record but her head to head in new york against nav

1:4 is not good and 2 wins were when steffi was number 1 already.

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