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Is Justine now as arrogant as the Williams sisters?

What do you think? She made a lot of statements after the FO which might lead one to think that Justine has probably eclipsed the sisters atleast in this regard: Here are some of her statments (paraphrased ofcourse)
"I am intelligent unlike other players"
"I don't only use my muscle unlike other players"
"Power players are scared of me"
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So, where is Justine's arrogance in the spectrum? 10% below the sisters, at 50 %, at the same level, at 200%?
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What do you think? She made a lot of statements after the FO which might lead one to think that Justine has probably eclipsed the sisters atleast in this regard: Here are some of her statments (paraphrased ofcourse)
"I am intelligent unlike other players"
"I don't only use my muscle unlike other players"
"Power players are scared of me"
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So, where is Justine's arrogance in the spectrum? 10% below the sisters, at 50 %, at the same level, at 200%?
I´m willing to bet that if either sister have said such things, they would have been banned by the WTA. The same with the comments by the coach of Justine....if it was Richard.....
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She's not arrogant. Those comments are true to a certain degree anyway.

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nice "paraphrasing." but i agree that she is pretty cocky. however, we have to remember that us as (mainly) english speakers only get to hear what she says to english speaking reporters in ENGLISH. she may not have all her words to say, "i think that slowly the game is being more well-rounded, and many players are watching out for players like me-- who prefer -------- over power." so she says, "players are afraid of me"-- that is if she actually said that to begin with...
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Of course, that was the same problem with Hingis; English isn't their first language. How will you cope if you were bombarded with questions in French or Italian after you just played a tennis and you have all sorts of emotions running through your head?

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Well the sister's comments are also true to a certain degree... they are definately the best players on tour on an average day, more often than not, when they play, they win. Anything they say that sounds cocky, is blatently true.

I'd say they're all cocky, and thats cos of all the billions of people in the world, they are the best. They lose, but only to people who are right up there with them. In a way, they deserve to be as cocky as they want. But in another, cockiness isn't endearing or an attractive trait in a person in big doses. I'd say she was more or less up there with anyone.

But also, who hasn't said "if i am playing at the top of my game, I can beat anyone"...... - who hasn't said that about their fave player also?
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She's not arrogant. Those comments are true to a certain degree anyway.
Oh sam L give me a break.lol

What I find disturbing on this board is the double standards. Justine's comments lately has been very arrogant, even moreso that what Serena is always accused of.

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I'll say this in public once. I miss serena so much. Fed is my favorite player but no one does it like her.

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hahahah u r exactly rite! she is as arrogant as the williams sisters and lets just hope she doesn't adopt their fashion sense
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Anyone who was calling Venus or Serena's statements 'arrogant' because of an honest appraisal of the statements, would find Justine's statement's 'arrogant', as well.

Of course, if those comments were motivated by racial bias, naturally Justine's comments would seem fine.

ONe imagine's that there's another 10-12% of the population that falls into neither category.

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hahahah u r exactly rite! she is as arrogant as the williams sisters and lets just hope she doesn't adopt their fashion sense
Justine better get some fashion sense. I won't even comment on her attire.

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Venus is not arrogant at all



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the comments are a bit true but justine has become a bit cocky.. what's worse is that everytime we see justine playing on tv the commentators are always praising her for a powerful backhand and giving us her "sad life story"..~ how she lost her mother and how she doesnt have a relationship with her family..
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harloo, I never said the sisters were arrogant.

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venus isn't arrogant? chek out this article i just found:

Why the Arrogant Venus Williams Has Ruined Women's Tennis

Eight Laps to Freedom
By SHIVA NAGARAJ

When did tennis become a combination of WWF and "General Hospital"?

Between keeping track of which hockey player Anna Kournikova has the hots for and following the tag-team rivalry pitting the Williams sisters against Lindsay Davenport and Martin Hingis, there's barely time left for catching any tennis that's actually being played.

Tennis is supposed to be the classy sport, the one that stays above the frays of the player squabbles, showbiz atmosphere, arrogant comments, and general malaise that characterize the other professional sports these days. As a whole, we've become so desensitized to the moral degeneration of baseball, football, basketball, and hockey that we barely turn our heads when the names Darryl Strawberry, Shawn Kemp, or Ray Lewis pop up in the press under the category of ill-cultured antics.

But tennis, the game of Rod Laver, Bjorn Borg and Chris Evert, wasn't supposed to be like the other sports.

For all the brilliant play that took place during the last fortnight's U.S. Open -- see Marat Safin, Todd Martin, Elena Dementieva -- it was easily overshadowed by the crass flavor that tennis has acquired recently.

And that trend all started with the arrival of Venus Williams onto the women's tennis scene.

There's no arguing that since Venus first began her march towards the top in 1994 (at the spry age of 14), she has raised the level of the sport exponentially. Instead of the days when Steffi Graf would dominate the tour ad nauseum, today there are reasonably 10-15 women who can make a legitimate run at any of the Grand Slam events.

But along with her phenomenal play, Venus also brought a hearty sense of arrogance and an unhealthy amount of cockiness, both of which have helped spawn the degeneration of tennis.

By destroying Davenport 6-4, 7-5 in the Open's final on Saturday, Venus produced further evidence that she is one of the best players out there right now; but at the same time, her words and actions detracted from her performance and only helped to add to the feeling that her presence on tour can only be bad for the future of the sport.

Having considered retirement a few months ago at the ripe old age of 20, Venus now seems a bit too confident of her abilities.

"I've always felt like the best player. It's about an attitude you take into the game. Now, I just go out and take it instead of hoping somebody's going to give it to me with their mistakes," she said.

Though that particular statement was uttered last week, Venus has been jabbering like that ever since she turned pro. But her words have far outdone her play on the court so far.

Hingis, despite being three months younger than Venus, has already won five Grand Slam titles compared to Venus' two. And Martina took her first Grand Slam in only her ninth try as opposed to Williams' 13th. Add Hingis' eight doubles titles in the Slams as well as the No.1 spot that she's clutched for the better part of the last three years, and it doesn't seem that Venus' words have really born any fruition.

Apparently that hasn't really stopped her.

In an interview, she recently said, "I had to ask the umpire [the score in the second set]. It didn't feel like the U.S. Open final. It felt like I was just playing a game."

Maybe you'd like to return your $800,000 check then. I mean, if it didn't feel like a U.S. Open final and all.

And commenting on winning both Wimbledon and the U.S. Open in the same year, she humbly declared, "It honestly does not feel as exciting as I thought it would."

Sorry the tennis world bores you so much Queen Venus. Jeez, even the problem child of the '80s, John McEnroe, eventually cleaned up his act.

And she doesn't limit her arrogance to the confines of the court.

When President Clinton called Saturday to congratulate Venus on her victory, she responded by asking him to cut her taxes. And when he said he would see what he could do, she shot back, "Should I read your lips?"

Furthermore, Clinton graciously invited Venus to the White House, to which she insultingly replied, "I'll think about it."

Contrast this to the way her sister, Serena treated a call from the Prez when she won the U.S. Open last year.

"I thought for sure my day couldn't get any better," she said in awe. "The next thing they told me is the President of the United States wanted to talk. I was like, wow."

Thankfully, at least one of the Willliams' sisters seems to comprehend the meaning of humility.

With a good 10-15 years of years left in her career, Venus has the talent to rule the WTA tour. She's beaten Davenport and Hingis at both Wimbledon and the U.S. Open now. The only reason she isn't No. 1 in the world is because the WTA bases its rankings on the last 52 weeks, and Venus missed the first four months of this season due to injury.

Perhaps if Venus puts a halt on the arrogance, and lets her racket do the talking, she will not only be respected for her ungodly skill but also for her down-to-earth demeanor.

If she can't do that, maybe she should retire early because tennis can do fine without her.




taken from http://www.cornellsun.com/articles/235/
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