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for not showing the Canadian Open final this year. This has to be one of the worst, if not the worst finals this year. The fact that this was a Tier I tournament makes it even worse. Hopefully next year, more of the top ten will show up and the Americans will come in masse.
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wasn't the french final just as bad??

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wasn't the french final just as bad??
Actually, the French Open final was the second or third worst women's final this year. What gets me is that people complain how boring the Williams sisters finals are, but at least their finals go to three sets and are not blowouts.
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so ur saying u think the French Final was the 2nd or 3rd worst women's final this year, but the Canadian one was worst??

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I think ESPN should be thanked for not showing this, how embarassing.

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Actually, the French Open final was the second or third worst women's final this year. What gets me is that people complain how boring the Williams sisters finals are, but at least their finals go to three sets and are not blowouts.
yeah their only finals that went to three sets were their last two Australian Open and Wimbledon. Did you watch one of their first finals in the 2001 US Open, that was just so embarrassing for Serena and quite an uninspired finals.
The finals between Justine and Kim have always been high quality match ups. They have played 5 finals and Justine have won 4 of them - only one being a two setter which was the French. Every other final they've played, especially San Diego and Berlin this year have been very well played.
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NO you are wrong! Hindsight is 20/20. of course this final happened to be a blowout but it is still a tier 1 and should have been covered. You are obviously not a WTA fan but Williams fans only. Even if it is a blowout I want it ON TV! imagine if it had turned out an amazing final and was not televised.

not to mention the great semis that were not televised.

your post wreaks of bias!
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yeah their only finals that went to three sets were their last two Australian Open and Wimbledon. Did you watch one of their first finals in the 2001 US Open, that was just so embarrassing for Serena and quite an uninspired finals.
The finals between Justine and Kim have always been high quality match ups. They have played 5 finals and Justine have won 4 of them - only one being a two setter which was the French. Every other final they've played, especially San Diego and Berlin this year have been very well played.

"High quality"? I dont think so. Their match in San Diego was decided mostly on errors (I dont even think that they reached the double digits in winners) That French Open final was flat out horrible (The German Open final was good, but you cant argue with the 1&2 thrashings that Kim gave Justine at the beginning of the year. I dont have a problem with their finals but what I do have a problem with is the fact that sorry azz press can put Serena and Venus finals through the ringer constantly, bitching and moaning about someone else needs to get to the finals to make it more competitive , but dont do the same whenever anyone else plays a shitty final. My point in case, Mary Carillo had no problems trashing the Wimbeldon or Austrailian Open finals, but kept her stank azz trap closed whenever Kim and Justine played almost the exact similar type of matches that V and S played.
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NO you are wrong! Hindsight is 20/20. of course this final happened to be a blowout but it is still a tier 1 and should have been covered. You are obviously not a WTA fan but Williams fans only. Even if it is a blowout I want it ON TV! imagine if it had turned out an amazing final and was not televised.

not to mention the great semis that were not televised.

your post wreaks of bias!
I don't deny that I am a WIlliams fan and a fan of good tennis. You can't tell me that this final today was good tennis because it was not. BTW, EPSN doesn't carry the Tokyo or Swisscom Challenge tournaments either and they are Tier I's

In addition, the word is reek, not wreak.
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yeah their only finals that went to three sets were their last two Australian Open and Wimbledon. Did you watch one of their first finals in the 2001 US Open, that was just so embarrassing for Serena and quite an uninspired finals.
The finals between Justine and Kim have always been high quality match ups. They have played 5 finals and Justine have won 4 of them - only one being a two setter which was the French. Every other final they've played, especially San Diego and Berlin this year have been very well played.
The 2001 USO women's final might have benn uninspiring, but it was still televised.
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"High quality"? I dont think so. Their match in San Diego was decided mostly on errors (I dont even think that they reached the double digits in winners) That French Open final was flat out horrible (The German Open final was good, but you cant argue with the 1&2 thrashings that Kim gave Justine at the beginning of the year. I dont have a problem with their finals but what I do have a problem with is the fact that sorry azz press can put Serena and Venus finals through the ringer constantly, bitching and moaning about someone else needs to get to the finals to make it more competitive , but dont do the same whenever anyone else plays a shitty final. My point in case, Mary Carillo had no problems trashing the Wimbeldon or Austrailian Open finals, but kept her stank azz trap closed whenever Kim and Justine played almost the exact similar type of matches that V and S played.
I disagree. The San Diego final was pretty good and better than what happened at Melbourne or Wimbledon. And this is not because I like Justine. It's flat out true. The finals that the sisters make it to are always decided by errors. And it wasn't until the Australian Open that they could even make it to three sets. But when Justine and Kim played their first final at the Ordina Open in 2001, it was a three setter. And it wasn't until the French Open that it wasn't a three setter. And when they played another final, it was another three setter. I will agree that the French Open final was horrible but was it any worse than what the sisters did the year before? Sure the score wasn't as bad but how was the quality?

And yeah I pretty much agree with the press comments and Mary Carillo. But I can't agree with the idea that Clijsters-Henin finals are just as boring as Williams finals.
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The 2001 USO women's final might have benn uninspiring, but it was still televised.
because it was a Grand Slam final you fucker. I'd take the 2003 French Open final where there was actually winners coming off of one side of the net with some magnificent shots than the 2001 US Open where Serena pretty much blew balls out of the ass of her racket.
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because it was a Grand Slam final you fucker. I'd take the 2003 French Open final where there was actually winners coming off of one side of the net with some magnificent shots than the 2001 US Open where Serena pretty much blew balls out of the ass of her racket.
You can take what you want, you piece of shit, but ratings don't lie and apparently in the US more people wanted to see Venus and Serena than they did Kim and Justine.
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LOL@this match. I mean last year we had Mauresmo/Capriati in the finals which was a good match, the year before it was Capriati/Serena which was good. However this year was just a joke. H-H should of been handed the title before she even showed up.

6-1,6-0 in a tier I final is a joke. Now maybe in a tier II or III or lower, but a tier I?

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I disagree. The San Diego final was pretty good and better than what happened at Melbourne or Wimbledon. And this is not because I like Justine. It's flat out true. The finals that the sisters make it to are always decided by errors. And it wasn't until the Australian Open that they could even make it to three sets. But when Justine and Kim played their first final at the Ordina Open in 2001, it was a three setter. And it wasn't until the French Open that it wasn't a three setter. And when they played another final, it was another three setter. I will agree that the French Open final was horrible but was it any worse than what the sisters did the year before? Sure the score wasn't as bad but how was the quality?

And yeah I pretty much agree with the press comments and Mary Carillo. But I can't agree with the idea that Clijsters-Henin finals are just as boring as Williams finals.


Sorry but I will agree to disagree. That San Diego final was no worse than anything that Venus or Serena had done. BTW, had you think that maybe the pressure of the ocassion would get to the players? Clisjsters and Henin-Hardenne in 2001 were not in the big leagues yet, and had nowhere near the pressure of having idiots nitpick every thing you do out there on the court but Venus and Serena did. Not only because they two of the toughest to play, but because they were sisters.
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