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Vera won 100 points.....87 of Venus unforced errors.

Fuck this shit.....Godamnit.


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I betcha Vera doesn't care about this stat.

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I think it was more V's second serve again/still/always. She was really struggling when she had to put a 2nd ball in play.

Great job Ver@!
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Hold on .... Vera won exactly 100 points? She had 13 winners.... and you're telling me all 87 of those UEs were unforced? That can't possibly be. There MUST have been forced errors mixed in there.
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The point is Vera still had to keep the ball in play and let Venus make the errors and Venus gladly made the errors...

I'm not so upset over this loss...Now Venus has three weeks to get ready for Wimbledon...and rest her abdominals...

What I'm mad about are her errors...at least if u are going to let people beat you, let them beat you with winners...Vera won that second set and only hit 2 winners...

Even in the third Venus had 3 BP's for 4-2 and she threw in a string of errors...at 4-4 in the third she had a 40-0 lead and got broken with another string of errors...

Obviously she needs to adjust the grip on her forehand, no way its technically sound and breaks down so much...

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Venus did hit a lot of good shots though - Zvonereva just got a lot of big shots back.
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Here's the funny thing about the stats in this match. When you add the winners and the ue's you come up with the total points for both players. This would mean that there were NO forced errors in the match. If you all believe that.... I've got some nice land in Florida to sell you.

The ue stats have been bogus this entire tournament.
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I knew it would come to this, and I had a feeling that Vera could cause the upset. She is good on clay, and she took a set off of rena here last year.

IMO, this match was decided by the amount of errors Venus made. She has been shaky throughout this whole tournament, and I just knew it would catch up too her especially on clay.

You cannot take anything away from Vera, she won it Venus lost because of poor form, lack of practice, and the injury had something to do with her preparation.

Good win for Vera though. She will get alot of points for this win.

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Here's the funny thing about the stats in this match. When you add the winners and the ue's you come up with the total points for both players. This would mean that there were NO forced errors in the match. If you all believe that.... I've got some nice land in Florida to sell you.

The ue stats have been bogus this entire tournament.
this is absolutely correct. i'm betting at least half of the errors attributed to both were forced.
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I hope Venus loses 1r at Wimbledon...she needs some damn sense shocked into her =(


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They are not counting the errors right.

They are wrong for all matches (too high).

I was watching the last two sets and at least 2/3 of the errors were forced (for both players). Venus made a lot of unforced errors, but not THAT much. Not more than she makes in her average match (when she's not playing her best). I would say they were 40 - 50 maximum (but at least around 35). Vera made very little unforced errors - she played almost perfect.
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The UE count is meaningless at this tournament. The other point about Venus's errors was that many were induced by Vera's variety and her strategy of seeking out and relentlessly pursuing a weakness. Its Vera's relentless targetted attack on it as well as Venus's fh errors. Venus may not be brilliant at present but she was up against someone who looked as if she watched a lot of Hingis as a youngster and added height, a stronger serve, more power and speed.
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If you think 87 UFEs was all caused by Veras raquet, than stop smoking the crack.
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Yeah, Vera's favorite player is/was Martina
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