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Who exactly are the Clay Court Specialists?

We know who the men clay specialists are but who in the world are the clay specialists on the women side?

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Generally, most of the women tend to be all court players.

I can't think of anyone who is a clay court specialist.

Hmm, maybe Clarissa Fernandez or Ruano Pascal.

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Off the top of my head:


Conchita
Magui
Ruano
Fernandez
Pistolesi


I dont think any current top players could be called clay court specialists (Henin/Clijsters) because they have had very good results on all surfaces.

Coetzer has always played well on every surface too, but I think she could be called a clay courter as well.
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Basically all European raised women are clay specialists right? At least western European, I'm not sure about Russians though. Also South American raised players seem to be specialists.

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Basically all European raised women are clay specialists right?
no, John Mcenroe, that is not true.

Kim Clijsters is a clay court specialist? Huh.

There are a lot of players that are most at home on the clay courts, but clay isn't the tumultuous force it is in the men's game. If you want clay court specialists, think of Gala Leon Garcia or Fabiola Zuluaga or somebody like that whose results are so much better on dirt.

And i don't think Conchita Martinez qualifies. I know, I know, but i have a hard time classifying somebody with a Wimbledon title as her ONLY Slam as a clay court specialist.
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Conchita, ASV, CLijsters, Henin, Mauresmo, COetzer

Wow, that's a bunch of them.... how many French Open titles does each has?

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no, John Mcenroe, that is not true.

Kim Clijsters is a clay court specialist? Huh.

There are a lot of players that are most at home on the clay courts, but clay isn't the tumultuous force it is in the men's game. If you want clay court specialists, think of Gala Leon Garcia or Fabiola Zuluaga or somebody like that whose results are so much better on dirt.

And i don't think Conchita Martinez qualifies. I know, I know, but i have a hard time classifying somebody with a Wimbledon title as her ONLY Slam as a clay court specialist.

I was thinking the same thing, but 20 of her 46 titles have been on clay, 4th most all-time. But you're right, she has reached finals of every
GS excluding US Open.


Gala and Fabiola too
Patty?
Marta
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Wow, that's a bunch of them.... how many French Open titles does each has?
A grand total of three, all won by Arantxa sanchez Vicario. Should tell you something about the validity of that list.
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Conchita Martinez
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Henin, Suarez, Babsi, Patty, Zulaga and Conchi are the names which spring to mind instantly but there are others.

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Most of the women [top women anyway] can play on all surfaces.

Many list Henin-Hardenne as a clay specialist, yet she's had her best slam at Wimbledon

Certainly, you have players who favor clay like Conchita--but she also won Wimbledon.

Again, the women generally can play on all surfaces.

I think the lower ranked players are more "specialists"

Cristina Torrens-Valero generally has her best results on clay; Paola Suarez only seems to be factor on clay; Clarisa Fernandez [although she looked good at the Canadian last year]; Magui Serna [but, like Henin and Martinez, she's done well on grass]
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King Lindsay, you dont have to win the French Open to be a clay courter

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I think the point is, people usually think of "clay court specialists" as players whose results on clay are consistently and markedly better than their results on other surfaces.

It's hard to say that about someone who's won a slam on GRASS.

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Yeah a clay court specialist is just a nice way of saying I suck on all other surfaces :-)
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