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Outrage, Outrage, Outrage

O.K. people this is where the double standards come into play when dealing with the W/S. What Dockic said about her opponent yesterday was truly abhorrent. Could you imagine if the W/S had said anything like that, we would see a 4 page thread on the topic rediculing them and calling them all sorts of names, yet, nothing is said about Dockic. DOUBLE STANDARDS WE SAY. I hope the next time the W/S say anything that most of the time is not negative but is turned into something negative by their haters I do not see pages of threads about it.
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It looks well covered in the Martinez Def Dokic thread.
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what do you mean, nothing is said? I've always said I like Dokic least of all the players because of her comments! She's often like that after a loss!

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Yes this has been discussed .... I think that the conclusion is that the staements were not v.nice on Jelena's part. However they were quite true to the most extent, even Conchita said she played bad herself and was surprised. Jelena was just a little upset and angry and it is a common fact that the girl tells it like it is.

& Beggin' Beguine, Jelena doesn't say many mean comments at all. Basically this is the only recent one she has said. SOmetimes she says it was her that lost, but that is because most of the time it is.
I think ppl bag DOkic cause she tells it like it is, and ppl are afraid of the truth.
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I have to agree with Leslie, if it was a Williams sister, then we would have seen a much more HUGE thread picking on them. The same would also apply to Jen.

I know my faves (Jen and Elena) have been catty, but never to the extent that Dokic goes. Jen sometimes withholds credit due to other opponents, but I have never heard her or Elena actually diss the other opponents play.

EG - Jen didnt say nothing negative about Conchita or her play after her 6-0 6-3 loss to her last year.

Dokic needs to sort out a helluva alot of things IMO. Attitude being number 1, as whilst Jen can get fired up and still compete, all Jelena does is sulk (I saw the match yday).
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O.K. people this is where the double standards come into play when dealing with the W/S. What Dockic said about her opponent yesterday was truly abhorrent. Could you imagine if the W/S had said anything like that, we would see a 4 page thread on the topic rediculing them and calling them all sorts of names, yet, nothing is said about Dockic. DOUBLE STANDARDS WE SAY. I hope the next time the W/S say anything that most of the time is not negative but is turned into something negative by their haters I do not see pages of threads about it.
first of all, a bunch of people jumped all over jelena for it.

Second of all, if Dokic was as big a star as Venus or Serena, you could bet it would be an even larger story.

Thirdly, quit bitching about NOTHING.
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what do you mean, nothing is said? I've always said I like Dokic least of all the players because of her comments! She's often like that after a loss!
As I said before that thread is nothing compare to if Venus or Serena had said those words and we all know that they would not say something like that but the slighest non-negative thing you guys jump all over the sisters. When serena said something about playing below her level something like 9000 notches this board went insane and grant it Serena was talking about herself not her opponent. I am just trying to point out how you guys are towards the sisters and not other opponents but I guess you guys will never see the difference.

Another example, Justine pulled out of the IO and everyone was on her side and agreed that she should not play but boy, let it be Serena or Venus we would be hearing oh, they have no respect for the sport, they are always pulling out of tournments, they do not play enough etc. etc. As I said before they are damn if they do and damn if they don't. Like Venus said "If I lose there's a problem, If I win there's a problem what am I to do". So true Vee.
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But people slag Jelly off to the high heavens anyway about what she says in her PC's!!! Why does it warent a thread.

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I'm getting really, really, really sick of all these "double standard" and "the williams sisters are picked on" threads from a few complaining whiners. Just SHUT UP ALREADY. You have no case! nothing you say holds any weight because you're full of shit. You would think being the fans of the best players in the world would make you less irritable and sensitive. Yeah, Serena and Venus are just SOOO hard done by. Just leave it alone. what exactly is the aim of threads like this? To make me pity Venus and Serena? To make me feel sorry for the terrible, horrible, awful, disgraceful, malicious treatment they get on a MESSAGE BOARD? Or is one person's desire to just be a complete moronic bitch? ding ding ding, yes, I think we have a winner right there.
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I'm getting really, really, really sick of all these "double standard" and "the williams sisters are picked on" threads from a few complaining whiners. Just SHUT UP ALREADY. You have no case! nothing you say holds any weight because you're full of shit. You would think being the fans of the best players in the world would make you less irritable and sensitive. Yeah, Serena and Venus are just SOOO hard done by. Just leave it alone. what exactly is the aim of threads like this? To make me pity Venus and Serena? To make me feel sorry for the terrible, horrible, awful, disgraceful, malicious treatment they get on a MESSAGE BOARD? Or is one person's desire to just be a complete moronic bitch? ding ding ding, yes, I think we have a winner right there.

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I have to agree with Leslie, if it was a Williams sister, then we would have seen a much more HUGE thread picking on them. The same would also apply to Jen.

I know my faves (Jen and Elena) have been catty, but never to the extent that Dokic goes. Jen sometimes withholds credit due to other opponents, but I have never heard her or Elena actually diss the other opponents play.

EG - Jen didnt say nothing negative about Conchita or her play after her 6-0 6-3 loss to her last year.

Dokic needs to sort out a helluva alot of things IMO. Attitude being number 1, as whilst Jen can get fired up and still compete, all Jelena does is sulk (I saw the match yday).
You are right, I know I get on Jen sometimes but I have never heard her say anything that outrageous about her opponents. Jen might withhold true, and it is smart of players to do that rather than to say crap like what Dockic said.
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& Beggin' Beguine, Jelena doesn't say many mean comments at all. Basically this is the only recent one she has said. SOmetimes she says it was her that lost, but that is because most of the time it is.
I think ppl bag DOkic cause she tells it like it is, and ppl are afraid of the truth.
stress on 'recent', I guess. If there's one player who's a terrible loser, it's Jelena.

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I'm getting really, really, really sick of all these "double standard" and "the williams sisters are picked on" threads from a few complaining whiners. Just SHUT UP ALREADY. You have no case! nothing you say holds any weight because you're full of shit. You would think being the fans of the best players in the world would make you less irritable and sensitive. Yeah, Serena and Venus are just SOOO hard done by. Just leave it alone. what exactly is the aim of threads like this? To make me pity Venus and Serena? To make me feel sorry for the terrible, horrible, awful, disgraceful, malicious treatment they get on a MESSAGE BOARD? Or is one person's desire to just be a complete moronic bitch? ding ding ding, yes, I think we have a winner right there.
The aim of this thread is to show that Richard Williams is King and he knows what he is talking about when he speaks of racism and his daughters in the WTA as we can all see racism is on this board towards the sisters also. Venus and Serena certainly does not need your pity they could buy you and sell you over and over again. You can call me whatever the hell you want. The truth hurts and you can't stand it that what I am saying is the truth when it comes to the sisters. Live with it. And yes baby, I do have a case.
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I'm getting really, really, really sick of all these "double standard" and "the williams sisters are picked on" threads from a few complaining whiners. Just SHUT UP ALREADY. You have no case! nothing you say holds any weight because you're full of shit. You would think being the fans of the best players in the world would make you less irritable and sensitive. Yeah, Serena and Venus are just SOOO hard done by. Just leave it alone. what exactly is the aim of threads like this? To make me pity Venus and Serena? To make me feel sorry for the terrible, horrible, awful, disgraceful, malicious treatment they get on a MESSAGE BOARD? Or is one person's desire to just be a complete moronic bitch? ding ding ding, yes, I think we have a winner right there.
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King Lindsay, Leslie's thread is not soliciting for pity, rather pointing out the double standards when it comes to V&S, no more and no less!
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i've just made my comments known in the martinex def dokic thread.

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