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Top 10 - Who doesn't deserve to be there? And who should take their place?

I don' think at this point Daniela Hantuchova has any business being in the top 10 anymore. She's been playing soo poorly it hurts. And I mean unlike Jelena Dokic, Daniela doesn't seem to have any outside stress that could be affecting her.

I think Vera Zvonoreva will be in the Top 10 in a year with the way she's been playing. She's great on all surfaces and she's extremely powerful. I would expect her to be able to defeat top 15ers by the US Open.
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Vera will not be going beyond around 20 if she can't ever beat anyone in the top 7 =P


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the first one who still dares to say that Justine Henin-Hardenne doesn't belong in the top 10 gets a slap lol
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Vera should takes Daniela place
Dementieva should takes Anastasia place
yeah i think Dani deserves her place but she plays like a crap after her successfull moved to top 5.. Get better soon Dani, Get better soon Jelena

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a lot of the girls are in the top ten that i dont think belong there. monica has beaten chanda twice alone this year, has beaten mauresmo, and the only reason she is low is because she sprained her ankle and hasn't played at dokic pace. my opinion: chanda (though i love her), dani, and myskina are up there a little too high because of monica's injury, but i can't think of any other player outside the top 10 who really deserves to be there. who has vera beaten?
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Really from Chanda thru Seles is not the best right now... Not playing due to injuries, or some are just pathetically struggling. So, anyone 8-13 could be moved up/down.
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I think, it`s difficult to say who deserves a Top 10 ranking and who not.
If you say that e. g. Myskina, Chanda or Hantuchova don`t deserve their ranking in the top ten you perhaps offend their fans.

IMO players like Chanda, Hantuchova and Myskina/Dokic - they both change the 10th/11th spot very often - wouldn`t be Top 10 without Monica`s injury and Hingis`retirement - is she or not

Myskina, Hantuchova and Chanda had their results to reach the Top 10 but they have great results one week and the week after they lose in their first match.

To mention some players who I think should be in Top 10 because of their achievements in their carreers or because of their names, I say:

Dementiewa perhaps
Martinez
Monica
Hingis
Coetzer perhaps
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Martinez & Coetzer in the top ten now? What have you been drinking?

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the first one who still dares to say that Justine Henin-Hardenne doesn't belong in the top 10 gets a slap lol
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I disagree with the premise of this question. EVERY ranked deserves to be where they are. Please be reminded that the WTA's ranking system is not like figure skating where the scores are subjective. Every ranking position is empirically derived, hence the question of who deserves what is irrevelant. What has been confusing to many including some on this board is the purpose of the ranking system. The ranking system that has been in existence for over 25 years is NOT to determine who the "BEST" player is. For that reason, the system has been attacked and derided by many in the media and message boards. That's unfortunate. The ranking system, with all of its flaws works.

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I disagree with the premise of this question. EVERY ranked deserves to be where they are. Please be reminded that the WTA's ranking system is not like figure skating where the scores are subjective. Every ranking position is empirically derived, hence the question of who deserves what is irrevelant. What has been confusing to many including some on this board is the purpose of the ranking system. The ranking system that has been in existence for over 25 years is NOT to determine who the "BEST" player is. For that reason, the system has been attacked and derided by many in the media and message boards. That's unfortunate. The ranking system, with all of its flaws works.

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Oops, I meant to say "EVERY ranked PLAYER deserves to be where they are"

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none of them deserve to be there

this is the real top 10

1. Elena Bovina (Rus)
2. Elena Dementieva(Rus)
3. Anna Kournikova(Rus)
4. Svetlana Kuznetsova(Rus)
5. Lina Krasnoroutskaya(Rus)
6. Dinara Safina(Rus)
7. Elena Likhovtseva(Rus)
8. Vera Douchevina(Rus)
9. Maria Kirilenko(Rus)
10. Tatiana Panova(Rus)

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Martinez & Coetzer in the top ten now? What have you been drinking?
I mentioned them because of their carreer achievements. Do you think Zwonarewa deserves a Top 10 ranking because she has reached two or three quarterfinals this season?
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it's extremely interesting that posters on this board think they have a right to claim who does or doesn't "deserve" to be in the top ten. most posters here aren't even registered with their nationl tennis associations, and they think they know who "deserves" a ranking or not.

i realize one can have his/her own opinions. but it is also my opinion that every girl in the top ten has earned those points placing them there. say what you will about the WTA ranking system, say what you will about how much those points mean, say what you will about how fair those points are. fact is, it's the same for all players. they all know EXACTLY how the system works and how to get the points they need to be top ten. if they are not top ten, they either don't care to go for the points to place them there, or they are incapable of getting the points. plain and simple.


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Well I think if you want an answer to who deserves to be there and who doesn't then you just have to wait a couple of weeks cos time reveals the truth and the time is now. Look at the last few weeks where we saw a lot "top ten-ers" fall. Now we know who have been faking the funk and who hasn't been faking it. Oh well.

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