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post #1 of 29 (permalink) Old May 6th, 2003, 12:10 PM Thread Starter
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The Problem With The Tour

Is it just me?

But I really feel that the WTA tour is undergoing a mini-crisis right now. Basically, the really good players (venus and serena) are not committed enough and the really committed players are just not good enough.

Dont get me wrong, because I think Kim and Justine and all the rest of the top ten play well, but they are not quite in the league of venus and serena yet (though they may in time to come)

And then of course, on top of these, players nowadays are starting to lack in personality. Some one who is really good, is committed and HAS personality is really hard to come by nowadays.

And this is why the WTA tour is failing...

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LOL this is too funny. Kim hasn't played in a month, and because of Justine not winning every tournament she plays in, the WTA tour is failing. LMAO.

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And this is why the WTA tour is failing...
What measure are you using to establish 'failure'? I would say rather that the WTA is succeeding despite being possibly the most mis-managed professional sport in the world. The very best players are as good or better than any other players in history. (Not their CAREERS, their performance level.) Players 11-20 are ridiculously better than players 11-20 even ten years ago. Tournaments that are even marginally well run do well in attendance. And the tour has failed to exploit regional cable, meaning they have an entirely new, near totally unexploited revenue stream.

WHAT 'failure'?

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I disagree. While the number of people gaining interest in tennis is increasing, we must note that we may be able to attribute this in general to societal advancement.

Tennis isnt reaching out anymore because the interest level has really dipped...

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tennis seems indeed a little dead right now even serena seems to feel that way. well I got that idea in her last two tournaments. that was not the 2002 serena!

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tennis seems indeed a little dead right now even serena seems to feel that way. well I got that idea in her last two tournaments. that was not the 2002 serena!
This statement doesn't suprise me. The dutch female players are not really the best.
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what has that to do with it?

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oh you think I dislike Belgians and that's the reason I say what I say?

nope I like kim a lot and I want her to win the french with all my heart!

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I disagree. While the number of people gaining interest in tennis is increasing, we must note that we may be able to attribute this in general to societal advancement.
Ya tryin ta piss off selesrules? It's all due to Anna!!!!!!!!
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lol no!!!

i dont think this is a belgians issue at all and i'm shocked at all those who think so! kim and justine are my favorite active players right now!
In fact, it is not an issue directed at any player in particular! It is just a comment on the WTA

irma really summed it up for me.
It seemed as though the tour isnt so fiercely competitive anymore
and the players lack that "fire" to compete

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My Serena will be back to shoot some fire in the tours bellys in another week
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My Serena will be back to shoot some fire in the tours bellys in another week
Lets hope so

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Why is it no one ever sent me yet/One perfect limousine, do you suppose?
Ah no, it's always just my luck to get/One perfect rose.
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If only I had played longer....
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I like Kim and Justine, especially Kim. But in my mind there is no question right now that the tour has lost steam. It just isn't generating the kind of "heat" it did a couple of years ago and the TV ratings in the US are proving it. So is the loss of a title sponsor and the upheavals in the WTA front office.

Part of this is because the media has become dominated by the 15 minutes worth of fame mentality. The media now follows a herd instinct. Whatever is "hot" gets saturation coverage these days and anything else gets whatever attention the media has left over.

But a big part of the problem, in my opinion, is the departure from the sport of Martina, the most colorful player on the tour, and the complete decline of Kournikova, the most glamourous player on the tour. And that, of course, eliminated "The Spice Girls," the most colorful, glamourous act tennis had. They could fill up a stadium on their own.

For now, the romance of women's tennis is gone. Its all about power and women's tennis needs more than power, because physical power is assocated in most people's minds with men. Women's sports need sex appeal.
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