Which bombshell's title run is better? - TennisForum.com
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Daniela @ IW 11 23.40%
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post #1 of 20 (permalink) Old Apr 22nd, 2003, 01:11 AM Thread Starter
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Which bombshell's title run is better?

Daniela or Elena???

Daniela won a Tier I (IW) defeating Justine and Martina H on a hardcourt.

Elena won a Tier II (AI) defeating Hantuchova, Justine & Lindsay on clay.

Combining both objectivity and personal bias, Elena wins hands down.

The calibre of players (add Coetzer to her list too, who'd just won a tourney on clay) she defeated was amazing, as well as the mental toughess she displayed in those matches. Also she did this in one week, whilst Daniela had the course of two weeks to rack up her title.

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post #2 of 20 (permalink) Old Apr 22nd, 2003, 01:53 AM
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post #3 of 20 (permalink) Old Apr 22nd, 2003, 01:54 AM
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ya dee u r right fo sho i mean elena had one amazing week by any players standards!!!! dani have the bigger tourny win but the players she beat were not as good ... plus AI was on clay

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I think it's close... but probably the slight edge to Elena.

Elena beat Lina, Amanda, Dani, Juju & Lindsay... those are 5 quality wins there.

Dani didn't have as difficult as draw overall... but beating Martina was a better quality win. Martina was still playing as a Top 2 player then.
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ya also remember that if elena had meat hingis in the finals she would have beaten her too!!!! she owned hingis.

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Elena @ Amelia cause its MUCH tougher to beat Justine on clay than it is on a hardcourt

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Definitely Daniela.

Before Amelia Island, Elena got to the US Open Semifinals, she was already in the top 10, so these things should have been expected from her, even after she fell out of the top 20.

Daniela, was new, not much was known of her, and she relatively cruised to the final, CRUSHING Hingis after she just came from the OZ final. That was just more amazing.

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i'm not sure, but both of them had a slight advantage

they came out playing really well
in normal circumstances, the top players would have risen to the occasion
but as they did not expect elena and daniela to be playing so well, they had a little bit of a let down

so it also depends on how complacent the players they are playing are

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Dementieva "owned Hingis?" They played three times, Martina won two out of three of those matches.
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Definitely Daniela.

Before Amelia Island, Elena got to the US Open Semifinals, she was already in the top 10, so these things should have been expected from her, even after she fell out of the top 20.

Daniela, was new, not much was known of her, and she relatively cruised to the final, CRUSHING Hingis after she just came from the OZ final. That was just more amazing.
exactly. elena's win was better quality, but in terms of bombshells daniela takes the cake. i know people did not expect elena to win this tournament but she has been playing well on clay so far and had the results and the game for people who know her well to know that she was eventually going to this, very much like patty in zurich/charlseton, and iva in charlseton
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Dementieva "owned Hingis?" They played three times, Martina won two out of three of those matches.
Actually, it's 2-2.

Elena DEMENTIEVA (RUS) v Martina HINGIS (SUI)

1999 Australian Open Hard (O) 64 Martina HINGIS 3-6 2-6
2000 Moscow Carpet (I) QF Martina HINGIS 0-6 7-6(5) 5-7
2001 Moscow Carpet (I) QF Elena DEMENTIEVA 6-2 6-2
2002 Stuttgart Hard (I) 16 Elena DEMENTIEVA 6-3 6-1
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no tonyP ... they played at least three if i remember and dementieva won the last 2 of how ever many they played (i think it was something like 4 or 5 times) ne way in '01 in moscow dementieva beat hingis #1 in the world 6-2, 6-2...and then at stuttgart in '02 dementieva won 6-3, 6-1....
oh here is their record:
1999 Australian Open Hard (O) 64 Martina HINGIS 3-6 2-6

2000 Moscow Carpet (I) QF Martina HINGIS 0-6 7-6(5) 5-7

2001 Moscow Carpet (I) QF Elena DEMENTIEVA 6-2 6-2

2002 Stuttgart Hard (I) 16 Elena DEMENTIEVA 6-3 6-1
u can clearly see that elena was taking over the rivalry!

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lol I've got to go with AKFan#1
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However out of your options, I think both were impressive bombshell title runs. Hantuchova came out relatively unknown, with not much experience to rely on but she had a weak field. On the other hand Dementieva had experience making a semi at a GS,final at the olympics,expectations placed on her, and had some form but she did have a tougher draw and defeated 3 top ten players.

So I'll be boring and sit on the fence.


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I have always considered Daniela's run a fluke and still do. Beating Henin on US hardcourts is nothing, we know that. And Hingis has never been competitive again after this match, and neither she was in that match too, she was playing in her last career final. These days, winning a hardcourt event without beating one of Williams, Davenport, Capriati or Clijsters is indication that that was very weak event or you got plain lucky. Elena , on the other hand, beat three players who used to win Tier Is on this surface, and she beat Hantuchova as well. Oh did she really beat her? No. "Beat" is not an appropriate word..

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