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post #1 of 22 (permalink) Old Apr 16th, 2003, 07:46 AM Thread Starter
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The WTA v The American Media

This thread is about some general observations that I have made, this year in particular, reguarding the American Media and the Elite and not so Elite American Woman Tennis players.

This mainly stems back from the Australian open and onwards.

The big thing that disturbed me greatly about the Australian open was the ease that Serena and Venus made it too the final, according to the American press. That will become folklore, as all does with the American media. Forgotten will be the fact that Serena fell into the 2nd round and fell into the final. As Martina Navratilova said on finals day for the "Australian coverage" Quote "Serena has to win this, she should not of been here in round 2 and definately should not be in the final, a loss would be devastating after all that".

America? well those are issues they failed to address much to the detriment of American Tennis. why you ask?

They are delveloping a false sense of secruity around there top players for a start.

The American Media has not Questioned where Jennifer Capriati is, but the rest of the world can point out, and rightly, that us females of the species could of concievably (no pun intended) given birth to two children and have them both off the bottle between tournament wins. Quite Frankly, we could be pregnant for the third time. The American media doesn't have a problem with this. Jennifer's fans and tennis fans over all must...surely.

They also haven't asked about Lindsay, who has managed to garner together one tournament win from 6 or more finals since she has returned. Lindsay is fast becoming a "Solid semi-finalist" and it is a shame to see, but one the American media is quite happy to sit with, alas rubbing off on tennis fans. Surely once again Lindsay fans and Tennis fans must be worried.

Venus? well she is just plodding along as the "Ever the Bridesmaid" and the American media doesn't care about that either. Of course I am sure it would be different if it was a non-american always handing Venus the "Bridesmaid" trophy.

Serena? Well, she is the deserved number 1, no doubt about that, but when she says things that are so outrageous like she is going to go undefeated in 2003 and then the American media jump on the band wagon and believe it and push it as a "fait a compli", then it just compounds the problems even further.

So when Justine defeated Serena last week we seen the American headlines, they were all about how badly Serena played. No where was to be seen was the way Justine actually dismantled Serena (Those who have seen the match will agree) and shook her to the core by rattling of 23 of 26 points. In fact the WTA reported it from 3-3 in the first set. Totally ignored the fact that Serena lead 3-0 and lost 6 games straight.

So the heat was applied by different sections of the media world wide, laughing at America's "Cotton wooling" of there top stars and they responded, with the full backing of the WTA, the only way the American media can:

"Ashley Harkleroad, a future number 1!!"

So what does this all mean?

To me it means the America media are making total fools of themselves and there Tennis stars. They Believe the dominance of American female tennis is complete, the rest of the world saw the cracks long ago and are slowly and defiantely prising them open into gaping holes.

The rest of the world can see a aging Seles/Raymond/Davenport/Capriati.

The rest of the world can see:
A continuing weaking of Venus as her inability to win the "Majors" is slowly but surely lowering down the tennis ladder

The rest of the world can see:
A defiant and sometimes Arrogant world number 1, who is finally finding out what it is like to be hunted and puts her not so dominate form of late down to another "off day"

Maybe she has been reading the "Local" paper too much and actually believes it.

I admire all 4 girls I have discussed here and wish them well, but there is a defiante weakening in the grip of Americans on the game, maybe the Media should be asking questions now and not in 2 years time. By then they maybe asking where America's next Top 50 player is coming from.

Now how does all this tie in with the Thread title?

Beats me, as far as the rest of the world and it's players can see, the American Media and The WTA are the same outfit.

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post #2 of 22 (permalink) Old Apr 16th, 2003, 07:51 AM
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I agree the American media needs to stop acting so patriotic for once
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It has been three years since a player from a country apart from the USA won a major. And you think that America is slipping as a tennis powerhouse? HAH.
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And even Mary is more American than anything else.

Honestly, if you want ignore Pierce's alleged French-ness, it goes back to RG 1999 where Steffi won.
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Nothing nicer then a few people like the above 2 to illustrate the very attitude that my thoughts ascertain too.

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Well, sorry if I get a little jingoistic about my country and all .... oh wait, that's right, I'm not even American and therefore I don't think I can be illustrating that attitude, can I?

Picol, forecasting the imminent doom of American women's tennis seems a little stupid when there is absolutely no reason to believe that will happen. I could go into all the things in your post which are wrong but .... ah, what the hell.

" defiant and sometimes Arrogant world number 1, who is finally finding out what it is like to be hunted and puts her not so dominate form of late down to another 'off day'"

Yes, that Serena sure hasn't been very dominant lately. And all those off days she's been having! But I can hardly remember the last one before her Charleston loss... oh wait, that's right, she hadn't had one since NOVEMBER. She's 21-1 on the year. Not so dominant, huh?

venus has been to the last four major finals and is clearly the 2nd best player in the world, rankings be damned. I really don't think she's on the decline.

Lindsay is back to the top five after a terrible injury. She's only just getting back to where she was.

Jen has been slumping, I will give you that much. But she's still #6. Hardly a collapse.

And what have you say about Americans' record at the Slams over the past three years? It's unreal to me how you can possibly suggest that America's grip on the game is weakening. There is no evidence to suggest that. None.
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I think you are ignoring some things.

I will try and write this as clearly as my opinions in my mind will allow.

1. Serena will never have things fall her way they way did in a slam as they did at the Aussie. She did not deserve to be in the final, but took her luck. I am not saying Venus would not of won it if Serena had fallen earlier, but I am just passing an opinion that I do not believe Venus knows how to win the big ones any more.

2.Lindsay Davenport: more then 5 top 10 players in a tournament and she is gone at semi final time if not before

3.Monica Seles: Injuries are taking any thing left. Capable of great stuff, but now needs things to go her way, including claw.

4;Jennifer Capriati: By god, I'm pregnant a 3rd time

5: Well looking, nothing coming up.

So to me you have 2 fleeting stars (lets face up to the fact that Serena and Venus will only last another 2-3 years tops with there constantly ailing bodies), two on the otherside of 25 and one closing in on 30 and nothing to get excited about coming up.

I do believe in 2 years time there will be, if the Americans are lucky, maybe 1 in the top 10 and maybe 2 or 3 in the top 20. The writing is there, if you look.

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LOL. It's really not. Venus and Serena will be around for years. Monica, Lindsay, Jennifer less so, but they will be top players until they retire which is a while off. The two Williamses will carry America over to the new generation in any event.

Venus doesn't know how to beat her sister anymore. She knows how to beat everyone else.

Serena is ruling the game. She wasn't that good in Australia, but still enough to get the job done. Then she blazed through Paris and Miami, only to lose the FCC final to Justine. I don't see the decline there.

I simply don't buy anything you're trying to sell here. I think you're absolutely dead-wrong. There is no sign American dominance of women's tennis will end any time soon.
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The only thing I can see, because going back and forth is not going to provide any definate answers, is to use a counter-balance approach.

Simply earmark this thread and bring it up when appropiate to establish a factual point between us

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Go ahead. Bump in up in two years when serena's won her 10th major and Shenay Perry is #3.
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Go ahead. Bump in up in two years when serena's won her 10th major and Shenay Perry is #3.
"Factual", not "Fantasy"

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Picol,
I'm not even in this discussion (which is very interesting by the way), but I'm pretty sure that I'm going to ram my head into this computer monitor the next time you write "should of" instead of "should have".

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LOL. i didn't even notice that!
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How could you not notice it? LOL!!!!!

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