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post #1 of 22 (permalink) Old Apr 14th, 2003, 10:31 PM Thread Starter
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Monica refused to participate in trial?

I'm not a Seles fan, so forgive me for not knowing this. In another thread, a poster who shall remain nameless (Fortis), siad that Monica had refused to participate in Gunter Parche's trial when the German authorities asked her to.

First, is that true?

Second, if true, has Monica ever given a rationale for that decision?

Mind you, she was stabbed in front of a stadium full of people. Her participation shouldn't have been necessary. But I also know German courts are more lenient than American courts with where 'insanity' is concerned. (In the US, its legal to give drugs to a schizophrenic to make him sane enough to execute.) Did i know that at 19? Actually, yes, but my father was a history teacher, and I was a very political kid (Member of NOW, devotee of protest marches, able to expound ad nauseum on a score of useless topics). Monica had a very different life. Rather like Jenn having no idea what Title IX was, I doubt the systemic biases of the German court system were Monica's idea of light reading.

Whatever.

It's an interesting decision if that's what she did.

So what's the real deal?

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post #2 of 22 (permalink) Old Apr 14th, 2003, 10:39 PM
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It's true. She refused at some level to cooperate with the German prosecutors, who wanted her to appear in person.

HOWEVER-from reading her book (From Fear to Victory) it's understandable why she refused to go to Germany.

1. It was obvious Gunter stabbed her. Hello-all the world saw it.

2. Worst of all, according to Monica, German law at the time required her to sit WITH HER BACK to Gunter, meaning she couldn't accuse him face to face. Can't say that i blame her at all considering where she was stabbed.


Question for German posters-is this part of German trials today? Is it
peculiar to only some staten?
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post #3 of 22 (permalink) Old Apr 14th, 2003, 11:25 PM
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Stop the silliness. Seles would have been given super-protection in court.

She didn't take part in the trial because she also had lucrative civil lawsuits against the organisers in Hamburg and the WTA.

As I said she can't accuse the Germans of not meteing out justice if she refused to answer the call to participate. You can't have your cake and eat it. A book written by Seles or with Seles' input would only have her side of the story. The objective point of view is that she was invited to take part and refused. I wonder why she holds a grudge against the German system?? Because it brings her more attention..hmmm.
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Fortis, are you German? Just wondering...

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Fortis, you are such an idiot. If Monica is an attention seeker like you claim, then we would have heard something about her during the 2.5 year absence. She was nowhere to be seen and nobody could know anything about her. Wow she's such an attention seeker. Every post you write puts Monica down, listening to you you'd probably stab her yourself, get a fucking life.
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It's obvious the emotional scars were too much to handle...It's often that in murder, attempted murder, attempted rape, rape, etc. cases that the victims can't relive the experience because it's too hard.

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NO, Serlesrules..or whatever your name is ....Youy clearly think seles is a saint and can do no wrong. I merely am being objective by pointing out that she was invited to take part in the trial and did not.

Parche was insane.. what's your rationale for spending countless hours on a board extolling the so-called virtues of someone you don't know closely ..Let's see ..delusion...obsession...irrationality...sounds close to insanity to me.
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Great sig TennisFool.

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hate Germans or defend/hate on Monica.

I'm curious about her statement about a witness having his/her back to the accused though-it sounds bizarre.

Can anyone tell us if this is German law?
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Fortis - I think you're not being entirely reasonable. The man was crazy. Unless German law allowed them to chain him to his seat during the trial, there's no reason to believe he would NOT attack Monica in court. he attacked her in front of a stadium full of people. Any reasonable person HAS to assume he might try it in a court room. If getting caught scared him, he wouldn't have done it in the first place.

You say 'Seles would have been given super-protection in court.' Sez who? I can get out of a chair, over a four foot wall and across 20 feet in 3 seconds. And I'm fat and middle-aged. Unless you can say for certain the man was chained in place, that arguement is, pardon me, bullshit.

And testifying at the trial would have in no way impacted her civil lawsuits. If anything, she WEAKENED her case in lawsuits by not testifying. Use some common sense.

As for 'she can't accuse the Germans of not meteing out justice if she refused to answer the call to participate., how many witnesses did they have? Five THOUSAND. Ten Thousand. A stadium full of people saw him stab her and he walked. And you claim the victim of that attack has no right to accuse the court of not meteing out justice?

You just undermined your entire arguement, with which I agreed with a good deal of, by saying something patently ridiculous.

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protection Fortis?! What protection?! The same one they provided to Monica while on the tenniscourt?! That protection sure didn't help!

Besided EVERYONE saw that it was Gunther Parche......what else is there to say?! Monica didn't even see the guy coming, so I wonder what she would have to declare?!
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Can anyone answer my question about German trial procedure from the earlier post?
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post #14 of 22 (permalink) Old Apr 17th, 2003, 01:36 PM
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Just to clarify - Parche didn't "walk free" because he was declared innocent, he was declared to be clinically insane and therefore not accountable for his actions. He went to hospital in the end, I think, for a significant period of time.
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