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post #1 of 33 (permalink) Old Apr 14th, 2003, 02:42 PM Thread Starter
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Should Monica's stats be split into two?

should Monica's stats and results be split into 2? i.e. pre stabbing and after stabbin?

does anyone have these stats and could post them? could be interesting to see the difference in her two tennis careers???
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Possibly. I think Jen's should be too, though
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but jenny didn't get stabbed.. she went off the rails on her own accord and not by some deranged fan.
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No, but her career definitely falls into two halves in the same way. Stats from the first half of her career don't make much sense to look that closely at now, which is a little confusing.
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Jennifer Capriati has ONE career that SHE ruined somewhere along the way.

However Monica Seles' career was destroyed by some Graf psycho and it has ruined her mentality and career and it was NOT her choice to have TWO careers.

So NO, Capriati's career shouldn't be seperated because whatever she did it's her own doings, everything was her choice.
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For God's sake, people, I'm not saying that Jen & Monica's careers fall into two halves for the same reasons. I'm just saying that for convenience of reference when it comes to looking at stats it would be nice if both players had the two halves of their careers separated.
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First of all, we throw out the Maleeva "match" entirely. Anyhow:

Pre: 253-29 8 Slams, a little over 30 titles in total.
Post: 348-91 1 Slam, about 20 titles.

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post #8 of 33 (permalink) Old Apr 14th, 2003, 04:15 PM
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I would NOT split Monica's stats. But if you're going to get into that, splitting other players stats as well is perfectly vaild.

As I understand it, Monica was physically healed and able to play again in a couple months. Not playing for the additional two years was a choice Monica made. Corina Morariu didn't choose to get cancer. But it sure interrupted her career.

Yes Monica was the victim of a crime. That doesn't give her some kind of 'statistical dispensation'. Monica doesn't ask for special treatment. Why do some of her fans keep trying to force it on her?

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Yet again, Volcana proves to be the voice of reason.
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post #10 of 33 (permalink) Old Apr 14th, 2003, 04:38 PM
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What Volcana said. Plus I think it would be unrespectful to Monica's will to fight back and to have a great overall career despite the stabbing.

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253-29 is a very impressive record. Compare that to current Serena's 222-41 record.
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post #12 of 33 (permalink) Old Apr 14th, 2003, 07:07 PM
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BTB, what do you get if you split her career?

Not-quite-Maureen Connolly, and a one-slam wonder.

Leave it as is, and you have oe of the ten best careers of all time.

I think the latter is more indicative of Monica.

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First of all, we throw out the Maleeva "match" entirely. Anyhow:

Pre: 253-29 8 Slams, a little over 30 titles in total.
Post: 348-91 1 Slam, about 20 titles.
thx...........
absolutely......refering to pre-injury and post-injury,
the injuries that Monica received had to have taken a lot
out of her.........so people will always recognize it....
i would also split JenC's career to pre-stoned....and post-stoned...
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post #14 of 33 (permalink) Old Apr 14th, 2003, 07:48 PM
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If anyone's career should be split, it's Steffi's career. Pre-stabbing and post-stabbing.

1988-1989: in her prime, Graf wins 8 slams.

1990-1993: MONICA arrives and dominates the tour. Steffi was past her prime and won only 3 slams in 3 years (only 1 slam with Monica entered, Monica has 3-1 record in grandslam finals over Graf). Steffi was THE PAST, a clear #2.

1993-1996: All of a sudden there's the stabbing and Steffi is again #1 and wins 10 slams in 3 years

What bullshit.
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Get over it!!
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