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Pam: Good time for Serena to lose

***And many of you think Pam doesn't like Serena???

Serena gets first loss behind her

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By Pam Shriver
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CHARLESTON, S.C. -- It was a strange match in the Family Circle Cup championship on Sunday as Serena Williams' perfect run ended with a loss to Justine Henin-Hardenne 6-3, 6-4.

Serena Williams started off looking good with a 3-0 lead and then lost six games in a row. She only won a handful of points in those six games. I just don't remember her doing that -- especially since she's started this great run.

Henin-Hardenne just sat back waiting for Williams to make errors. After the way Williams played against Lindsay Davenport the day before, I would never have picked Williams to lose today. She can lose to Justine Henin-Hardenne, but not the way she did today.

The word is that Williams was pretty dismissive of the loss in the press conference afterward -- acting like it wasn't a big deal.

But the win does boost No. 4 Henin-Hardenne to even a slightly higher level though her rank stays the same. The Belgians continue to climb. Kim Clijsters is projected to replace Venus Williams as the No. 2 player when the rankings come out on Monday. Henin-Hardenne did what no one has done since fellow Belgian Clijsters last November. As a matter of fact, Williams' only losses in the past six months have been to Clijsters and Henin-Hardenne.

It's good for Serena Williams to get the pressure off instead of going into the French Open and Wimbledon season with a long undefeated run. Once she's dealt with the loss, she'll need to keep focused on staying healthy and strong. She's prone to problems with knee tendinitis. She just needs to be sure not to give any hungry opponents an opportunity to beat her by letting her conditioning slip.

And although this is a Tier I tournament, she'd much rather have the first loss of the year here than a few other places on the tour like the Australian or French Open.

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I was at the tourney and actually spoke to Pam!!! She was nice to me, although most people there were saying she was a complete b*tch and wouldn't sign any autographs.. I did see her give an evil eye to a few people..

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Watch Pam contradict herself later on. Let's not hope so.

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Well Serena herself said it was a good time to loose, and she needs to lose sometimes. I think it will tell Serena where she is at on clay this season. I can point out already she needs to get better movement on clay, be more patient and perhaps slide a bit more then she does on the clay. The she will be invincible!!!

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Even though Pam is a horrible and bias commentator, I completly agree with this point of view. I think the same thing. The pressure is off of Serena now.

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Hmmm, "the pressure is off"? Pammy doesn't think maybe having won the last 4 slams creates more pressure than merely being undefeated in a handful of 2003 tournaments?

I agree the loss won't hurt Serena chances though and could be motivating.
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I think it's bullshit... Serena won't have any more/less pressure at RG if she won or lost here. I hate when people write diatribes on how players think coming into tournaments, because it's all bullshit.
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I think it's bullshit... Serena won't have any more/less pressure at RG if she won or lost here. I hate when people write diatribes on how players think coming into tournaments, because it's all bullshit.
Exactly! 'Experts' really piss me off sometimes.

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I don't know...this still comes off like
a biased report to me. Is there ever a
good time to lose? Pam's just trying to
play down the fact that the "streak" is
over. If Serena won Pam would've said
something on the lines of ....

Serena will obviously go into the clay
court season again to win the majority
of the tier 1's , and defend her Roland
Garros crown because she's just better
than everybody else hands down. This
match was so one-sided.

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does anyone have any stats for this match?


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I think it's bullshit... Serena won't have any more/less pressure at RG if she won or lost here. I hate when people write diatribes on how players think coming into tournaments, because it's all bullshit.
Okay, that seem a bit contradictory to me; on one hand, you claim that people can't tell about the thinking of players going into the tournament, but you have no problem claiming, on the other hand, that serena will not be pressurised more or less b/c of this loss going into FO.

Anyways, I agree with Pam. Whether Serena admits or not, there was a big expectation she/others put on her to go undefeated the whole season. I think before every match, or even after, she might have felt this extra pressure on top of the regular pre-match jitters. But, now that she have lost, I think serena will play more relaxed unless she states that she will go the rest of the season undefeated.
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I think it's bullshit... Serena won't have any more/less pressure at RG if she won or lost here. I hate when people write diatribes on how players think coming into tournaments, because it's all bullshit.

I disagree. Look at the AO 2003 before Serena was talking about there was no pressure then she started to struggle first round and then with kim and then with venus. Sorry but there was pressure and nerves and she admitted to it later eventhough beforehand and during she didn't.

I think serena will put this losss in perspective. She lost to justine last year at a tournament and then turned around and beat her in the next, ON CLAY. No one is unbeatable not serena and not justine and not kim.

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***And many of you think Pam doesn't like Serena???

Serena gets first loss behind her

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By Pam Shriver
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CHARLESTON, S.C. -- It was a strange match in the Family Circle Cup championship on Sunday as Serena Williams' perfect run ended with a loss to Justine Henin-Hardenne 6-3, 6-4.

Serena Williams started off looking good with a 3-0 lead and then lost six games in a row. She only won a handful of points in those six games. I just don't remember her doing that -- especially since she's started this great run.

Henin-Hardenne just sat back waiting for Williams to make errors. After the way Williams played against Lindsay Davenport the day before, I would never have picked Williams to lose today. She can lose to Justine Henin-Hardenne, but not the way she did today.

The word is that Williams was pretty dismissive of the loss in the press conference afterward -- acting like it wasn't a big deal.

But the win does boost No. 4 Henin-Hardenne to even a slightly higher level though her rank stays the same. The Belgians continue to climb. Kim Clijsters is projected to replace Venus Williams as the No. 2 player when the rankings come out on Monday. Henin-Hardenne did what no one has done since fellow Belgian Clijsters last November. As a matter of fact, Williams' only losses in the past six months have been to Clijsters and Henin-Hardenne.

It's good for Serena Williams to get the pressure off instead of going into the French Open and Wimbledon season with a long undefeated run. Once she's dealt with the loss, she'll need to keep focused on staying healthy and strong. She's prone to problems with knee tendinitis. She just needs to be sure not to give any hungry opponents an opportunity to beat her by letting her conditioning slip.

And although this is a Tier I tournament, she'd much rather have the first loss of the year here than a few other places on the tour like the Australian or French Open.


I agree! I think it was a good time for her to lose. Hopefully she will train harder for the French.
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How messed up would it be if Serena went undefeated the rest of the season...she would forever think of that match

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