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Does Justine Henin-Hardenne Own Serena Williams On Clay?

Before you get nasty, this is just a wake up call to those that would have posted exactly the converse had Serena won in 2 decisive sets today.
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Serena will get her the next time clay or no clay. Didn't Serena beat her in two sets at the Italian Open last year?
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At the moment I'd say Justine has a 60% share in Serena on clay, Serena has the other 40% share in Justine. Clijsters, meanwhile, is negative equity for Venus on clay.

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Yes, there is no player plays ball like Justine to Serena recently. Serena is going to learn to get use to it again and when they play next time, it will be closer. But Justine can still find her way to win on clay.
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green clay is faster than red clay so if she can beat Serena on fast clay .. she also can do this on very heavy red clay courts

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Technically 2/3 yes. I think that Justine def has a game to be respected on clay and Serena can't get away with the errors that she can on another surface. Last time Henin beat Serena....she came back, so we will see the next time they meet up if Serena can go back to the clay court game as opposed to her normal game.
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Yeah especially after today , seems like that JHH does 'own' Serena on clay .
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How come when one player has a big win over a top player or the World #1 everyone gets carried away??

Not to take anything away from Justine, she did play a great match, however, she now owns Serena on clay?? I hardly qualify winning two matches out of three on the dirt as being dominating.

Then there is talk about her being #2, or maybe even #1. Sure, these are all possibilities, and more power to her if she does this, but this is just one tournament. One great win in a tournament doesn't qualify her at the next #1.

All I'm saying is that aren't we are all just getting a little too carried away with ourselves?? How come there was none of this talk before she beat Serena??

Anyway, congrats Justine on a great tournament. You played well.

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How come when one player has a big win over a top player or the World #1 everyone gets carried away??

Not to take anything away from Justine, she did play a great match, however, she now owns Serena on clay?? I hardly qualify winning two matches out of three on the dirt as being dominating.

Then there is talk about her being #2, or maybe even #1. Sure, these are all possibilities, and more power to her if she does this, but this is just one tournament. One great win in a tournament doesn't qualify her at the next #1.

All I'm saying is that aren't we are all just getting a little too carried away with ourselves?? How come there was none of this talk before she beat Serena??

Anyway, congrats Justine on a great tournament. You played well.
I appreciate your post, and I see your logic. I did though only do this as a bit of preventitive medicine. There are some rabid posters here, who, if Serena would have won, would have done EXACTLY this same type thread only saying that Seri owns Juju. So, it's tongue in cheek....for the most part.
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No..but she does lead their head to head meetings on clay, so that does say something.

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are u retarded? THey have only played three matches on clay, no one owns anyone. Serena beat juju in two decisive sets in rome and juju barely eeked out a in in germany with a tie breaker. So please spare us.

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are U retarded? Seles said at the very beginning of the thread that the whole thing was tongue in cheek..... which anybody who had a teensy weensy bit of sense already knew by reading the thread title.

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are U retarded? Seles said at the very beginning of the thread that the whole thing was tongue in cheek..... which anybody who had a teensy weensy bit of sence already knew by reading the thread title.
it read like more crap to me.

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Better hone your reading skills then.
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But..... thanks for preserving my horrible spelling error. lol.
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