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Smile Will Kim Reach #1 By End Of Year?

I do declare! Kim has a chance on ending the year @ #1. Things are sure to start heating up on centre court.

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Kim Clijsters was overwhelmed by Serena in the semis, but keep an eye on Clijsters' ranking. A stats savant made a good point to me: If Clijsters plays -- and does well -- in 20 events this year and Serena only plays her usual 12, Clijsters conceivably could finish the season ranked No. 1, even if Serena owns her head-to-head. Already Clijsters is set to move ahead of Venus next week. ...

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I do declare! Kim has a chance on ending the year @ #1. Things are sure to start heating up on centre court.

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Kim Clijsters was overwhelmed by Serena in the semis, but keep an eye on Clijsters' ranking. A stats savant made a good point to me: If Clijsters plays -- and does well -- in 20 events this year and Serena only plays her usual 12, Clijsters conceivably could finish the season ranked No. 1, even if Serena owns her head-to-head. Already Clijsters is set to move ahead of Venus next week. ...

Umm, doesnt the wta only count the best of 17 plus doesnt Kim have a boatload of pts to defend from the grass season on. Plus I think if Serena defends her titles, (or makes a decent showing in the them) that it will make it just that harder for Clisjsters to get the number one ranking. However go Kim.
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Kim Clijsters was overwhelmed by Serena in the semis, but keep an eye on Clijsters' ranking. A stats savant made a good point to me: If Clijsters plays -- and does well -- in 20 events this year and Serena only plays her usual 12, Clijsters conceivably could finish the season ranked No. 1, even if Serena owns her head-to-head. Already Clijsters is set to move ahead of Venus next week. ...
So what if Kim gets the #1 ranking only because S&V don't play enough tournaments?
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I think if she gets close Rena will most likely pick up a few indoor tournys at the end of the year.
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So what if Kim gets the #1 ranking only because S&V don't play enough tournaments?
#1 is still #1 however she accomplishes it. Though personally I don't think Kim can do it. I wish she could, but its highly unlikely.

Serena is the deserving holder of the top position (well duh!) and will continue to hold it for the next couple of years. Maybe after then it'll be Kims time to shine.

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Serena is the deserving holder of the top position
And that's all that matters...
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if Kim does get to #1 it proves the flaws in the system

it is possible though
if Kim plays 22 tournaments, the best 17 are used, not including her Sugiyama-like losses

if Serena plays 13 tournaments, and doesnt win everyone

its highly possible

Venus really should have been #1 from 2000 on but because of that same reason, she wasnt
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1999 proved the flaws with the system as Martina was #1.

The best player in a year, is who performs the best in Grand Slams. Case closed.
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1999 proved the flaws with the system as Martina was #1.

The best player in a year, is who performs the best in Grand Slams. Case closed.
Then why isn't it just based on Grand Slams? I don't quite understand why all the bitching and moaning, unless you think your player is getting shafted . . .

Of course, I am a student of the ATP's entry system, which seems a little less complicated, so please don't bite my head off.

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the only way that Clijsters will get to # 1 in the world is if she keeps up her form, but i doubt that she can do it for the whole yeas, but if Serena fails to defend her Grand Slam titels, she's gonna have a big shot at it.

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the only way that Clijsters will get to # 1 in the world is if she keeps up her form, but i doubt that she can do it for the whole yeas, but if Serena fails to defend her Grand Slam titels, she's gonna have a big shot at it.
I can't picture anyone else winning a Grand Slam in the near future (unless Serena accidently gets hit by a bus or something )...but if she fails to win because someone else is better on that day (not because she's sick, not because she's tired, but because someone somehow manages to genuinely outplay her) that'd really make things interresting.

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the only way that Clijsters will get to # 1 in the world is if she keeps up her form, but i doubt that she can do it for the whole yeas, but if Serena fails to defend her Grand Slam titels, she's gonna have a big shot at it.
I think Kim can keep up her form for the whole year, and maybe only drop a little in form during the grass season.

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doesnt Kim have a boatload of pts to defend from the grass season on
nope she has nothing to defend on the grass and only 404 for the entire US hardcourt season (189 in Stanford, 93 in San Deigo and 122 at US Open) so she doesn't have lots to defend till post US Open.

So if Serena fails to defend 1 or 2 GS titles and Kim happens to snatch one it is possible, but I doubt she will get it. But ofcourse I hope she does

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well Serena is obviously going to win the rest of the slams this year
so she will have 4000 points approximately just from her slams. I see Kim getting like 2000 points. Plus Serena will win the Wta Championship, and HAS won Nasdaq (Tier 1). Not to mention she will win the Canadian Open. And Serena doesn't even need to play the rest of the tournaments.
Venus meanwhile, unless she doesn't show she wants it, should not be considered to even give Serena a challenge.
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#1 is still #1 however she accomplishes it. Though personally I don't think Kim can do it. I wish she could, but its highly unlikely.

Serena is the deserving holder of the top position (well duh!) and will continue to hold it for the next couple of years. Maybe after then it'll be Kims time to shine.
so if Serena were to withdraw from say the French Open, and loose the number 1 ranking to Venus or Kim, but start back at wimbledon, probably number 2 or 3, and continue to beat Kim/Venus non stop, Kim is still number 1 no matter how she gets it?

This is why you people again just kill me. you all make no damn sense. I know you all see/believe this ranking system is fucked up. Venus/Serena couldn't even get to number 1 or 2 w/out adding tournies. They were already beating 1 and 2 in the world. And you know, the thing about it is, they weren't playing 1 and 2 in the extra tournies they added. It is so stupid. If Kim does get to number 1, she will need A LOT of help. She is really depending on the sisters, she isn't depending on her results at all this year so far. But true, after wimbledon, kim is going to really have to prove herself. this time last year was very shitty from Kim. Venus/Serena have had the pressure, can they keep it up, they have over the past 3 years. Now this is kim's first year, to really try and keep it up where she actually started. so we will soon see if she can. but number 1? She is lucky to even have the opportunity that Venus is letting her be number 2 for about 1 week. And again, that is basically by accident

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